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| Topic | It turns out people were wrong about Tolkien's Orcs (the controversy) |
| Funkydog 01/28/21 9:20:07 AM #21: | monkmith posted... you realize the elves are pretty much drawn completely from the tuatha de danann right? hell the argument could be easily made that orcs are modeled after fomorians, their 'enemy' in that folklore.Tolkien is the one who made the comments about Celtic culture, not me. He had great disdain for it and refuted its influence on his work. " "Needless to say they are not Celtic! Neither are the tales. I do know Celtic things (many in their original languages Irish and Welsh), and feel for them a certain distaste: largely for their fundamental unreason. They have bright colour, but are like a broken stained glass window reassembled without design. They are in fact 'mad' as your reader saysbut I don't believe I am." " I simply meant if you wanted to look for anti Irish influence you only need to look to the things he said about anything Celtic (which obviously isn't just Ireland) than the orcs as they could potentially draw negative stereotypes from many things, or just meant to show various monstrous traits, many of which were unfortunately attributed to many groups of people. --- ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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