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SquirtleSkwad posted...

Disney has a literal formula to decide how their movies are supposed to play out. It's why they wouldn't let Edgar Wright take Ant-Man in a new direction and why they won't let Raimi make Doctor Strange 2 scarier.

Marvel has story beats that they make directors hit, but Taika Watiti, the Russo Brothers, James Gunn and Ryan Coogler were all allowed to play with their movies as much as they liked, to name a few.

Marvel has shit planed out years in advance, that doesnt mean the movies are written from start to finish and directors are given no room to play. It means there are a few major story beats that have to be hit for the timeline thats in place, but other than that, go nuts.

It sounds like Edgar Wright didnt want to play ball at all. He wanted 100% control and for it to live in this vacuum

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/collider.com/edgar-wright-ant-man-production-problems-explained/amp/

Heres some interesting tidbits.

While the Marvel Cinematic Universe was in the midst of expanding, Wright envisioned Ant-Man as a standalone story:

By October 2013, casting had begun and Marvel had staked out a July 2015 release date for the film. Marvel and Wright had narrowed their Scott Lang search down to Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Paul Rudd. Reportedly, it was Wright who wanted Rudd while Marvel favored Gordon-Levitt, hoping to inject some more youth into the MCU.

According to this. Wright is responsible for Paul Rudd in the MCU. And hey, JGL would have been amazing too. But cmon. Its fuckin Paul Rudd

Heres Wrights account of it:

I wanted to make a Marvel movie but I dont think they really wanted to make an Edgar Wright movie. I was the writer-director on it and then they wanted to do a draft without me, and having written all my other movies, thats a tough thing to move forward thinking if I do one of these movies I would like to be the writer-director. Suddenly becoming a director-for-hire on it, youre sort of less emotionally invested and you start to wonder why youre there, really.

And heres Kevin Feige

I wish it wasnt as late in the day as it was, but it just had become clear that there was an impasse that we had never reached before. Weve worked with lots of unbelievable talented filmmakers like Edgar before, and of course there are disagreements along the way. We had always found a way around it, a way to battle through it and emerge on the other side with a better product. It just became clear that both of us was just being too polite over the past eight years I guess! Then it was clear that, Oh youre really not gonna stop talking about that note? Oh, youre really not gonna do that note? Alright this isnt working.

This is an interesting and unfortunate story by both parties IMHO. And neither comes out of this unscathed. Edgar Wright was attached to Ant Man from the jump. It was supposed to be there alongside Iron Man and Captain America. But was delayed at least a couple of times. One they didnt feel it was a strong enough character to launch a franchise on. Two, let Wright do his own thing.

Marvel was actually eyeing Ant-Man was one of its Phase Two movies, but allowed Wright to delay production so he could instead make his original sci-fi film The Worlds End first

But All of us wish they could have made this work. Marvel hiring writers unbeknownst to Wright sounds shitty. But if its really a case of hey we know there was maybe a different plan in place for this movie initially. But were gonna need these scenes to make it match up in our current timeline

And for me, I trust Feige more than anyone else in the movie world. If he says they tried to make it work but Wright wouldnt take any notes to help their established universe?

How many scenes are in Ant Man that tie it to the MCU? Like 3. The flashback with Hank/Peggy/Howard and that Hydra guy at the beginning. And then two scenes with Falcon, one being a tiny stinger at the end.

I dont think Wright is being fair here. I dont think Marvel didnt let Wright make a Wright movie. Theres so much evidence out there of directors getting to do their thing. It seems like they had 3 important notes and Wright wouldnt budge.

And at the end of the day, Marvel CLEARY knows what theyre doing. We never got Wrights Ant Man unfortunately...but you cant call the product we got bad by any means.


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Like 90% of CE topics are the same way lol. CE is edgy/contrarian as f*** and will do anything to troll the TC/OP. -Touch