LogFAQs > #948471695

I understand this perspective, but at the same time, this seems like a fairly ignorant position historically. In the post-ww2 era where the cold war started ramping up, there were countries like Indonesia under Sukarno who weren't even communist, but merely unaligned third world nations with popular communist parties, and the result was that the United States backed fascist elements within the country with money, had them do false flag attacks and blame it on leftists, and then take over the government and completely purge anyone remotely left wing, either just kill them outright or send them to labor camps, and you can see this same strategy repeated over and over and over again in asia and south america. The lesson a lot of left wing leaders took from this was that they needed to have absolute support of the military and to completely shut out western influence in their country. There is a reason that they have so far failed to coup Maduro in Venezuela or failed so long at overthrowing Castro in Cuba, those guys got the support of the military so the US couldn't manage to overthrow them without a full on hot war. Social democracy is valid if you are a western european country aligned with the US backed influence, but it is a lot harder to pull it off for other parts of the world.