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kevwaffles 12/13/20 4:37:34 PM #234:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Secondly, this all started because I said I dont get the liberal worship of this guy, and you have gotten so wrapped up in...whatever this is, that you literally said Im saying he alone is the scum of the Earth. I mean that was your initial statement, sure, but it definitely seems like you cut deeper than that past it. I'm not saying I'm not embellishing a bit with my phrasing there, but I also wasn't quoting you on those exact words either. I've tried to be very clear when I do that. ChaosTonyV4 posted... As Ive acknowledged if youd actually read my posts Kev, there are extenuating circumstances AND sure, his response was not unreasonable, but that doesnt make it not what it was, a mistake. But calling it a mistake or a fuck-up that he should be held against him is saying he could have known with 100% certainty the absolute right thing to do at this point. He could have just assumed cloth masks were worth it right from the start and that would have ended up better for us at the time, but that would have just been a guess at the time. And it also ignores that mask protocols, even then, were not the only advice being given at the time. If we quarantined sooner and for longer (and were given more support to do so), mask advice would be more trivial than it is. ChaosTonyV4 posted... And of course here come the Bernie comparisons. Cant just address my comments, have to go on the attack. I didn't attack Bernie or you for liking him. It's a surface level, theoretical comparison to a guy you like solely because it shouldn't be that easy to get you to turn on him. I purposely didn't come up with something he's actually said or done because I'm not trying to make this a point of attack. (Side note: I'm not a Bernie supporter, but I like the guy just fine. And while I've taken issue with things his supporters have said, you included, that doesn't mean I think you're wrong for supporting him like I think for supporters of certain other politicians, who shall remain nameless.) --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:948291525] in Politics C... [t:79168294]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Secondly, this all started because I said I dont get the liberal worship of this guy, and you have gotten so wrapped up in...whatever this is, that you literally said Im saying he alone is the scum of the Earth.</quote>I mean that was your initial statement, sure, but it definitely seems like you cut deeper than that past it. I'm not saying I'm not embellishing a bit with my phrasing there, but I also wasn't quoting you on those exact words either. I've tried to be very clear when I do that. ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>As Ive acknowledged if youd actually read my posts Kev, there are extenuating circumstances AND sure, his response was not unreasonable, but that doesnt make it not what it was, a mistake.</quote>But calling it a mistake or a fuck-up that he should be held against him is saying he could have known with 100% certainty the absolute right thing to do at this point. He could have just assumed cloth masks were worth it right from the start and that would have ended up better for us at the time, but that would have just been a guess at the time. And it also ignores that mask protocols, even then, were not the only advice being given at the time. If we quarantined sooner and for longer (and were given more support to do so), mask advice would be more trivial than it is. ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>And of course here come the Bernie comparisons. Cant just address my comments, have to go on the attack.</quote>I didn't attack Bernie or you for liking him. It's a surface level, theoretical comparison to a guy you like solely because it shouldn't be that easy to get you to turn on him. I purposely didn't come up with something he's actually said or done because I'm not trying to make this a point of attack. (Side note: I'm not a Bernie supporter, but I like the guy just fine. And while I've taken issue with things his supporters have said, you included, that doesn't mean I think you're wrong for supporting him like I think for supporters of certain other politicians, who shall remain nameless.) --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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