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Revelation34 posted...

Do you're saying God supports murdering children if the father is an asshole?

I'm saying that this story isn't related to the question of abortion in the slightest.
lihlih posted...

Bruh, you're religious, but don't even know the Bible as much an atheist? David got Batheshba pregnant first, then tried to cover up the fact by trying to give her husband some time off to "spend with his wife". Only thing is, he was so loyal to his fellow soldiers that he refused to leave their side. Which is why David had him go on the front lines to die.

Also, the baby was born of sin, regardless of what sin was, and why does it matter if God murdered the baby or aborted the baby before it was born? Don't you religious types say that abortion is the same as murder? Or do you think actual murder is not as bad as abortion?

Cause first off, if you're talking about the stories relevance to pro-lifers and abortion, if the child had been born or not is important. I'm pretty sure most pro-abortion people would be against killing the baby after it's already been born.

Secondly, the reason why the child's life was taken was because of David's sin and breaking one, arguably two, of the ten commandments. That is important context to have. Imagine a judge sending a someone to jail for skipping his bill payments, earning your sympathies for doing so, then finding out the reason he got sent to jail was actually grand larceny.

This is also making a false equivalency. Namely that, because a pro-lifer sees abortion as wrong, they inherently are opposed to the taking of life for any and all reason. God killed children before. When the ten plagues came upon Egypt he killed literally every firstborn that didn't place the blood upon the door. Do you think there weren't any children or babies involved? Heck, the Dreamworks movie Prince of Egypt outright shows some Egyptian kid who looks to be about 10 dying from the Angel of Death. They know about things like Sodom and Gomorrah and the Great Flood and there's plenty of times in the Bible where God commands his followers to kill other people for various reasons (EX: Ehud). To most christians the life of the child was taken from David as the price of forgiveness for his sin (the Bible is very clear here that it's because he coveted Bathsheba and took her from Uriah, killing him in the process, in the ensuing parable). So you're not going to get them to see 'dumb girl who got drunk on a kegger and slept with the entire college football team trying to abort the ensuing baby because it 'will ruin her life'.' as being anywhere NEAR the same as 'God punishing David for his coveting of another mans wife, getting him killed in the process, and taking the life of his beloved child to atone for the sins he committed'.

You're looking for a hypocrisy that just isn't there with this story.

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