trump actually thanked the moderator for doing a good job mid debate at some point, which she deserves as imo she was the best moderator out of the 3
they both talked the talk but once you fact check what they say joe starts to crack heavily, he said he didn't say he would ban fracking yet he did several times (i posted vids here), he said he didn't do any of the things he is talking about because he had a republican senate but he had a democrat supermajority for his first 2 years, he said doesn't see blue or red states then immediately blamed red states for covid which is also untrue as blue states overall have worse stats, joe said no one lost their personal insurance under obamacare and that statement was deemed the number 1 lie at that year by politifact who themselves tilt democrat, joe said we were friends with hitler before he invaded europe which is also false https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany%E2%80%93United_States_relations "When Hitler and the Nazis took power in 1933, American public opinion was highly negative. Relations between the two nations turned sour after 1938."
there are more but you get the point, i recommend keeping an eye on the laptop saga though, imo it'll become a bigger deal than hillarys emails
The only relations that was never intended to be negative between Nazi Germany and the United States was the Hindenburg. But other than that, it was completely negative. Same deal with the Soviet Union, even though there was a certain propagandist in the New York Times named Walter Duranty which claimed that there was no famine in the Ukraine (which shows that fake news existed even nearly a century ago).