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TopicNo investigation, No right to speak
Le_seuI___dieu
10/07/20 4:10:44 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Ideas are concepts with objective existence, I think Hegel gets it's more correct than Kant. Kant also uses a learned Sage in a novel as ideal to show that some ideals, do, kind of exist.

Saying stifled free speech is the same as the non existence of free speech is like saying a dying man was never alive

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Also, utilitarian logic has a scope and scale problem

Your rule works for doctors, but it assumes investigation is always an available route.

If you just want to say speculation is lame then make a Wittgenstein or Carnap topic dude
i do not deny that ideals exist and impact the way we act and think, i have admitted as much. but there has never been free speech as we define it in society, much like there has never been a living man on mars there has never been a dead one either. we can imagine as much but it does not exist in concreto and is thus useless to a materialist.

you have a good understanding of philosophy and dialectics but fail to accept that our ideals exist only as such and do not apply exactly to the real world.
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