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Topic	Why are leftist so radical about abortion rights?
Wanded 09/19/20 10:55:03 PM #101:	LinkPizza posted... you don't have to worry about it as the fetus is never born, and doesn't know what they could be missing if they were ever born according to this logic there is also no issue with killing 1 year old babies who are also unaware of what they are missing, say mom and dad got fired, things get rough, they don't want the baby anymore, this situation fits all of your "it's okay to kill" checklist except it being alive but- LinkPizza posted... Because "Trump" is alive and the fetus is not a fetus is also alive, it moves and breathes etc also pro lifers consider the unborn as people with human rights since they are human and are alive LinkPizza posted... They are already grown. And we have shelters. being grown or not is irrelevant to whether it's okay to kill you or not, i don't think being under a certain age takes away your human rights. homeless people are a real problem in places like LA, there are plenty of people who moved away claiming they were the reason because you go outside with your kid to school and there is a homeless guy doing a number 2 in front of your house and used needles in the streets LinkPizza posted... hey can actually be helped, too. The homeless people, I mean. Having that baby helps no one, though... wait, so you're saying we can help a 50 year old homeless guy, who has debts, who has severe mental illness, but not a baby which is pretty much a clean slate? i don't think that is the case...guy is old while the baby still has his working years ahead of him hence he'll easier earn money and be productive for society, guy has debt hence needing more money than the baby who can also repay eventually after working and severe mental illness is really really hard to cure and costs a ton in theraphy LinkPizza posted... Lack of money can make people unhappy. You need money to actually afford things like shelter, food, utilities, etc. read what i said, i specifically talk about when shelter and food are accounted for, which is most cases so lets focus on those first the rest of what you said doesn't really counter my main point which is we don't really know whether that child will be happy or not so you can't automatically decide it'll be sad to justify killing it, you can't kill someone on an "if" or a "maybe" --- Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition <cite>Wanded posted [p:944839157] in Why are le... [t:78986545]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>you don't have to worry about it as the fetus is never born, and doesn't know what they could be missing if they were ever born</quote>according to this logic there is also no issue with killing 1 year old babies who are also unaware of what they are missing, say mom and dad got fired, things get rough, they don't want the baby anymore, this situation fits all of your "it's okay to kill" checklist except it being alive but- LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Because "Trump" is alive and the fetus is not</quote>a fetus is also alive, it moves and breathes etc also pro lifers consider the unborn as people with human rights since they are human and are alive LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>They are already grown. And we have shelters.</quote>being grown or not is irrelevant to whether it's okay to kill you or not, i don't think being under a certain age takes away your human rights. homeless people are a real problem in places like LA, there are plenty of people who moved away claiming they were the reason because you go outside with your kid to school and there is a homeless guy doing a number 2 in front of your house and used needles in the streets LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>hey can actually be helped, too. The homeless people, I mean. Having that baby helps no one, though...</quote>wait, so you're saying we can help a 50 year old homeless guy, who has debts, who has severe mental illness, but not a baby which is pretty much a clean slate? i don't think that is the case...guy is old while the baby still has his working years ahead of him hence he'll easier earn money and be productive for society, guy has debt hence needing more money than the baby who can also repay eventually after working and severe mental illness is really really hard to cure and costs a ton in theraphy LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Lack of money can make people unhappy. You need money to actually afford things like shelter, food, utilities, etc.</quote>read what i said, i specifically talk about when shelter and food are accounted for, which is most cases so lets focus on those first the rest of what you said doesn't really counter my main point which is we don't really know whether that child will be happy or not so you can't automatically decide it'll be sad to justify killing it, you can't kill someone on an "if" or a "maybe" --- Puss in Boots was a good movie and it deserves more recognition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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