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Wanded posted...

you blindly choose to believe false information without fact checking and doing a little research

Why do you choose to criticize Mead and not me, the source of the so-called "false information"? Do you perhaps fear I might know what I'm talking about?

I have no doubt I will fail to convince you of anything, but for others who may be reading: yes, Israel has made two-state offers in the past. Some offers were made early, either during or soon after the Palentinians were pushed out the territory that they had until recently occupied. I believe it's unrealistic to believe a people would agree to live in a small "rump state" made up of fragmented areas while they're in the process of being pushed there. Other offers were made later where perhaps the acceptance of Israel could have been accepted, but - very long story short - they were not.

There is no doubt that both parties can point to grievance upon grievance in the past. The relevant point in 2020, though, is that no true permanent solution has been offered in many years. Isreal is the entity who has the power in the relationship (as well as the entity with good living standards). Therefore, in moral and practical terms they are going to have to be the ones to seek and find a solution. If they choose nurse grievances instead and to hold people who are in their power as sub-citizens permanently...well, I suppose history will judge them.

I should say that there is significant support for a two-state solution in Israel (depending on how you define it) so there may be some hope. However, their current leadership is close to the religious right and there is no hope for such a solution with that group.

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