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Topic	Think Persona 6 will stop the trend of mocking gay people?
Eliza3 07/25/20 2:29:35 AM #82:	ssjevot posted... This topic literally opened with posters talking about how anti-LGBT Japan is based on one scene from a game that was controversial in the West. Ignoring all the other LGBT characters in Japanese media, ignoring issues actual LGBT characters face, and the TC also threw Persona 4 in there as well, which I find strange. My personal opinion of Persona 4 as someone who grew up bi in America was that Kanji resonated well with me. And certainly in Japan he is a well received character. I also like Naoto, but I'm not trans and the way she resolved her issues may not sit well with some. Many other Atlus games also feature good LGBT characters. So you accuse me of extrapolating a topic that immediately descended into "Japan is anti-LGBT" as being about a lack of understanding of LGBT issues in Japan how? This website constantly has displays of Western cultural superiority, and constantly stereotypes Japan (and other Eastern nations) based on ignorance. If people educated themselves I wouldn't have to constantly point out how things are more complicated than "East bad, West good". China is a whole separate issue where people can't seem to realize a government and a people aren't the same thing. You really should stop acting like we wouldn't criticize a western country for being anti-LGBT too. Which examples are you referring to where people are saying the west is better ITT? If you think Japan isn't anti-LGBT, check that survey you linked here. You are right that it's not the same. Just like how racism in the west manifests so differently from racism in East Asia. In the US, racists will simply attack you on sight these days. In Korea, it's usually very subtle, and heavily tied to xenophobia. That said, the west is also anti-LGBT in so many ways. It's getting better in the west, and American subcultures have had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards not being total shit towards minority groups. But it's a process. Let me be clear. I don't think that Japan is an inferior culture. I don't think that Japanese people are collectively anti-LGBT. It seems like you clearly value and love the culture and that's great. --- #notlikeothergirls uwu <cite>Eliza3 posted [p:942557650] in Think Pers... [t:78867858]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>This topic literally opened with posters talking about how anti-LGBT Japan is based on one scene from a game that was controversial in the West. Ignoring all the other LGBT characters in Japanese media, ignoring issues actual LGBT characters face, and the TC also threw Persona 4 in there as well, which I find strange. My personal opinion of Persona 4 as someone who grew up bi in America was that Kanji resonated well with me. And certainly in Japan he is a well received character. I also like Naoto, but I'm not trans and the way she resolved her issues may not sit well with some. Many other Atlus games also feature good LGBT characters. So you accuse me of extrapolating a topic that immediately descended into "Japan is anti-LGBT" as being about a lack of understanding of LGBT issues in Japan how? This website constantly has displays of Western cultural superiority, and constantly stereotypes Japan (and other Eastern nations) based on ignorance. If people educated themselves I wouldn't have to constantly point out how things are more complicated than "East bad, West good". China is a whole separate issue where people can't seem to realize a government and a people aren't the same thing.</quote> You really should stop acting like we wouldn't criticize a western country for being anti-LGBT too. Which examples are you referring to where people are saying the west is better ITT? If you think Japan isn't anti-LGBT, check that survey you linked here. You are right that it's not the same. Just like how racism in the west manifests so differently from racism in East Asia. In the US, racists will simply attack you on sight these days. In Korea, it's usually very subtle, and heavily tied to xenophobia. That said, the west is also anti-LGBT in so many ways. It's getting better in the west, and American subcultures have had to be dragged kicking and screaming towards not being total shit towards minority groups. But it's a process. Let me be clear. I don't think that Japan is an inferior culture. I don't think that Japanese people are collectively anti-LGBT. It seems like you clearly value and love the culture and that's great. --- #notlikeothergirls uwu</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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