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Topic	Think Persona 6 will stop the trend of mocking gay people?
ssjevot 07/25/20 1:00:06 AM #58:	Eliza3 posted... So youre just pulling the cultural relativism nonsense. Does that mean everything is off the table for criticism unless we use Japanese standards? How about work culture? Womens rights? Child sex abuse? No. I am saying there is more to it than just culture A correct, culture B wrong. I already said you can criticize cultures. It's just not black and white like you think it is. Not making any effort to understand a culture or to evaluate how your cultural bias influences that is literally why the US went from remove all depiction of LGBT to depict LGBT the proper Western way. It's a lack of attempting to understand other cultures that's the issue. It's the same thing when people in the US lose it about eating dogs or whales and never question eating pigs or cows, two animals that more people than live in the entire US find it offensive to eat. It's the lack of attempting to understand the culture or your own culture before criticism that is the issue. This is why people in the West talk endlessly about censorship of sexual content in games in Japan and never mention that games, even ones made in Japan have violence censored for Japanese release. In America extreme violence may be fine and explicit sex is bad, but in Japan it's the opposite. I used to be extremely pro-Western culture when I lived in the US and was just involved in the Western culture ideas of what was right or wrong. But a lot of issues are more nuanced than that. Japan doesn't have the history of LGBT religious repression the US does and as a result the community has evolved differently here and faces different challenges. You can't just put your assumptions of what it is based on the US into Japan. The US also sends mixed messages when you have a bigoted moron like Trump representing the country while your media tries to push stronger representation standards whatever those happen to be at any given time. You expect Japanese game developers to understand all this nuance about your culture while affording them none. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:942555926] in Think Pers... [t:78867858]...</cite> <quote>Eliza3 posted... </cite> <quote>So youre just pulling the cultural relativism nonsense. Does that mean everything is off the table for criticism unless we use Japanese standards? How about work culture? Womens rights? Child sex abuse?</quote> No. I am saying there is more to it than just culture A correct, culture B wrong. I already said you can criticize cultures. It's just not black and white like you think it is. Not making any effort to understand a culture or to evaluate how your cultural bias influences that is literally why the US went from remove all depiction of LGBT to depict LGBT the proper Western way. It's a lack of attempting to understand other cultures that's the issue. It's the same thing when people in the US lose it about eating dogs or whales and never question eating pigs or cows, two animals that more people than live in the entire US find it offensive to eat. It's the lack of attempting to understand the culture or your own culture before criticism that is the issue. This is why people in the West talk endlessly about censorship of sexual content in games in Japan and never mention that games, even ones made in Japan have violence censored for Japanese release. In America extreme violence may be fine and explicit sex is bad, but in Japan it's the opposite. I used to be extremely pro-Western culture when I lived in the US and was just involved in the Western culture ideas of what was right or wrong. But a lot of issues are more nuanced than that. Japan doesn't have the history of LGBT religious repression the US does and as a result the community has evolved differently here and faces different challenges. You can't just put your assumptions of what it is based on the US into Japan. The US also sends mixed messages when you have a bigoted moron like Trump representing the country while your media tries to push stronger representation standards whatever those happen to be at any given time. You expect Japanese game developers to understand all this nuance about your culture while affording them none. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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