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DarxWingDuck posted...

There's no data that suggests systematic racism in police... please point me to the rules or laws that are forcing this "systematic racism". I'm very interested to see this. Im not ignoring it, I'd like to know what it is without simpletons like yourself giving me only anecdotal evidence.

What are you talking about? Even the police aren't denying that it exists.

FBI telling MLK to commit suicide:

https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/11/12/7204453/martin-luther-king-fbi-letter

Richard Nixon admitting the War on Drugs was created as a way to arrest black people:

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/22/11278760/war-on-drugs-racism-nixon

That war still exists and same is true today:

38% of state prisoners are black (35% are white)

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/color-of-justice-racial-and-ethnic-disparity-in-state-prisons/

In New York Under age 25 Black and Latino people are only 5% of the population, yet they made 38% of stop and frisks. Of any age group, black and Lantinos made up 88% of stops. Something police are only meant to do if they suspected the guys had a weapon yet 98% of the time they did not and 90% of the time they were totally innocent of any crime whatsoever and carrying nothing.

Meanwhile white and Asian people were far far more likely to be carrying weapons or ilicit substances because of course they are, they know police are stopping black and hispanic guys so if you're muling drugs you do it via white guys.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/nyclu-releases-report-analyzing-nypd-stop-and-frisk-data
https://www.nyclu.org/en/Stop-and-Frisk-data

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 3 per 100,000 of the population as of June 2020.

Meanwhile cops are punished for not arresting enough black guys:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/06/nyregion/nyc-police-subway-racial-profiling.html

Black men are sentenced to 20% longer sentences for the same crimes as whites:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/16/black-men-sentenced-to-more-time-for-committing-the-exact-same-crime-as-a-white-person-study-finds/

And they are 80% more likely to go prison for a crime than a white guy.

https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

Prisons which then threaten and punish the state/government to give them prisoners so they can make profit. So there is a system of Cops rack up arrests = good for cops and politicians stats, prosecutors rack up convictions = good for their career record, private prisons fill up = they make money.

Businsess not justice.

https://www.salon.com/2017/08/04/private-prison-demands-new-mexico-and-feds-find-300-more-prisoners-in-60-days-or-it-will-close_partner/

Cops are fired for stopping other cops from murdering handcuffed black guys:

https://www.nbcboston.com/lx/a-former-buffalo-cop-fired-after-stopping-a-chokehold-is-fighting-for-police-accountability/2149556/

Cops not being hired for being too intelligent:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630

And on top of that, ignoring race entirely and just focusing on police Brutality. Let's look at overall killing of Citizens by police force per Capita

As a baseline, in the US, cops kill 46.6 per 10 million. How do the countries with similar numbers compare?

Democratic Republic of the Congo: 47.8
Iraq: 45.1
Nigeria: 44.0
Kenya: 43.5

Well that's weird, those aren't typically the countries you see associated with America. Let's check in on Europe

Germany: 1.3 (2018)
France: 3.8 (2018)
U.K.: 0.5 (2018)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_by_country

Almost 100 times the rate of the UK... That's insane.

And these are all just the tip of the iceberg. This kind of stuff is well known and all over the place. It's been reported and discussed and debated for decades. I refuse to believe that you in good faith are simutaniously claiming that you've never heard any of this before AND also saying you reject all anecdotal evidence.

What possible evidence is there that would convince you?

That's called burying your head in the sand.

I do agree the story should be huge for what it is, but that's not what's happening and you know it.
If not for race, this wouldn't be a national headline.

If you say so

In light of the recent protests and examination of police brutality, I think cops murdering civilians would be big news right now regardless of race. See that old man they threw to the ground. He was white and huge news.

You might be right that in a vacuum outside of the recent protests, people may have ignored the story and just said incredibly stupid things like "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" to a murder victim, but that's a bad thing. Not something you should be praising.

Cut the nonsensical bs claiming im criticizing myself, what a joke.

You really are. You're arguing the story should be huge at the same time you're complaining that the story has traction and denying it was murder just because the victim is the wrong skin.

Your gotcha is completely misplaced.
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^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
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