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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 303: The System Doesn't Work
Kinglicious
06/09/20 5:35:28 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Why do you say that? Why not just restructure the massive amount of funds they currently get?

i mean that's necessary too, and it's gonna happen regardless due to corona. take NYC - relevant on both issues. we're looking at a budget deficit of at least $9 billion. everything is getting cuts, NYPD included. i'm sure there's a lot of waste in there that isn't necessary. budget is $6 billion on NYPD.

first number to note, there's 38-39,000 cops. that's a lot of money in salaries alone.

but a cop makes $42,500 when they start. over here that ain't much, you normally can't live on that alone. yes, there's very good benefits involved, but benefits don't pay rent and they don't pay food. you're making a slightly above entry level job at a much greater risk. now there is overtime pay that can be very helpful but it's also pretty much necessary early on, which shows a massive flaw in the system's starting salary. also the salary does improve dramatically but it means you're eating shit for a while there. on this aspect, like all major jobs, they owe a lot to this improvement to the unions. you know, those things normally defended by the left but conveniently aren't here? yeah, those things. it's because of that cops who stay on the force for 5+ years make some good money.

if your goal is to have a force of well educated, well paid, well trained professionals? you're gonna spend more to do it, not less. i'm not sure what people think the costs are but the overwhelming majority is going to the usual paychecks. OT is a notable value but still a fraction of that. equipment and supplies aren't much. bluntly, if you cut funding you're cutting salaries, which will only produce the opposite of what you want because those who are well educated and want decent pay won't go there. those who are well trained will have significantly better opportunities elsewhere. those who lack education, lack training, and aren't professional will be the main ones signing up along with cops who will become either disillusioned and leave or rely on corruption to get more of what they want.

their full budget from 2020 is here. ultimately when you end up breaking it down you end up with a picture of a department that's pretty well squeezed as is.

https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2019/03/056-NYPD-2020.pdf

i don't know how the supposed idea of a billion dollar cut is gonna work in that budget. they honestly don't make much for what it is.

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