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Topic	Who do you believe will win the election? trump or biden?
guffguy89 06/05/20 12:46:34 PM #65:	undefined posted... yeah, you're delusional if you think the only thing moderates have been getting out of the protests and riots is "the looters/rioters suck." i'm sure plenty of them have been fucking terrified by the police brutality that has been going on. red sox 777 posted... Do you know any American moderates? Like, real ones. And I don't count - I am just anti-centrist, not moderate. As a moderate/centrist, I agree with Mr. Lasastryke. I share both opinions that "the looters suck" and "terrified of the police brutality". Before this, I have always sided more on the side of police, acknowledging a few bad apples. This was a wake up call that it's not just a few bad apples, there is systematic aggression that our police force defaults to that really needs to be addressed. There have always been defenses for this ("you don't know what they have to deal with every day", "their lives are on the line", etc.), but a lot of the videos that have surfaced have shown a lot of unnecessary and uncalled for uses of force that no argument can really justify. The problem is the looting/arson/destruction. It is the only thing that is fueling the Right right now. It's something they can latch onto amidst all this as a weapon against the movement, and I believe it's ultimately what's going to hinder the effects these protests could have had on real, lasting change. Having people defend the looting or shame others for calling out the looting, just because they don't want to say anything bad about the protesters, isn't helping either. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest. <cite>guffguy89 posted [p:940224539] in Who do you... [t:78745235]...</cite> <quote>undefined posted... </cite> <quote>yeah, you're delusional if you think the only thing moderates have been getting out of the protests and riots is "the looters/rioters suck." i'm sure plenty of them have been fucking terrified by the police brutality that has been going on.</quote>red sox 777 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you know any American moderates? Like, real ones. And I don't count - I am just anti-centrist, not moderate.</quote> As a moderate/centrist, I agree with Mr. Lasastryke. I share both opinions that "the looters suck" and "terrified of the police brutality". Before this, I have always sided more on the side of police, acknowledging a few bad apples. This was a wake up call that it's not just a few bad apples, there is systematic aggression that our police force defaults to that really needs to be addressed. There have always been defenses for this ("you don't know what they have to deal with every day", "their lives are on the line", etc.), but a lot of the videos that have surfaced have shown a lot of unnecessary and uncalled for uses of force that no argument can really justify. The problem is the looting/arson/destruction. It is the only thing that is fueling the Right right now. It's something they can latch onto amidst all this as a weapon against the movement, and I believe it's ultimately what's going to hinder the effects these protests could have had on real, lasting change. Having people defend the looting or shame others for calling out the looting, just because they don't want to say anything bad about the protesters, isn't helping either. --- Don't mind me. I'm just here for the contest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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