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Topic	If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.?
Darmik 05/29/20 2:34:59 AM #169:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Except that if she decides to keep it the father actually does not have any choices, unless he decides he wants to be a father. Yes. That's how it goes. IfGodCouldDie posted... Why are you acting like they are the only ones that should be responsible for it? The mother is the one that gets to make the decision, so she should be the one that takes on the responsibility. If she knows the guy is going to stick around and be a father, great. If she knows that he won't, it's probably best to not have the baby or give it up for adoption. Both parties are responsible. You are arguing that one doesn't need to be. Not every woman is willing to have an abortion or give a baby up for adoption. IfGodCouldDie posted... It's absolutely not the reality I am arguing for and I don't appreciate you trying to twist what I have said to paint me in some negative light. I am fully open to having discussions with people dispite whether or not we will agree but I do not enjoy having conversations with others if you are going to attempt to paint me in a way in which I condone raping or lying to anyone. The point is those scenarios are the consequence of pursuing a world where fathers have no responsibility for their unwanted children. It frees men from having to care about getting women pregnant because they will not be liable regardless of what the woman chooses to do. IfGodCouldDie posted... Why does all the responsibility have to fall on men when women are the only ones that get to make a choice? Giving some money to support a woman and his child is not all of the responsibility falling on them. Far from it. Women are the only ones who get to make that choice because the child grows inside them. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:939871509] in If men hav... [t:78727512]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>Except that if she decides to keep it the father actually does not have any choices, unless he decides he wants to be a father.</quote> Yes. That's how it goes. IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you acting like they are the only ones that should be responsible for it? The mother is the one that gets to make the decision, so she should be the one that takes on the responsibility. If she knows the guy is going to stick around and be a father, great. If she knows that he won't, it's probably best to not have the baby or give it up for adoption.</quote> Both parties are responsible. You are arguing that one doesn't need to be. Not every woman is willing to have an abortion or give a baby up for adoption. IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>It's absolutely not the reality I am arguing for and I don't appreciate you trying to twist what I have said to paint me in some negative light. I am fully open to having discussions with people dispite whether or not we will agree but I do not enjoy having conversations with others if you are going to attempt to paint me in a way in which I condone raping or lying to anyone.</quote> The point is those scenarios are the consequence of pursuing a world where fathers have no responsibility for their unwanted children. It frees men from having to care about getting women pregnant because they will not be liable regardless of what the woman chooses to do. IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>Why does all the responsibility have to fall on men when women are the only ones that get to make a choice?</quote> Giving some money to support a woman and his child is not all of the responsibility falling on them. Far from it. Women are the only ones who get to make that choice because the child grows inside them. --- Kind Regards, Darmik</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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