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TopicWas Avengers Endgame actually off-message? *SPOILERS* (article)
RchHomieQuanChi
04/03/20 10:17:02 AM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
Which would be all well and good if they did anything compelling with it. But they don't. We get:

Fat jokes right out the gate
Fortnite jokes
A potentially compelling bit with his mother that caps off with more fat jokes
A fanservicey fallback to the hammer, which we JUST had a movie painstakingly explaining that he didnt need
Thor reniging on his responsibility to his people, jokingly pawning everything on valkyrie, and going to make more fat jokes and measure dicks with star lord

I get they wanted a coping-with-depression angle, thats obvious, but they do it so poorly. We get exactly TWO scenes that even touch on that angle: him "going for the head," and flipping his shit when someone says thanos' name at the start. That's it. He does not grow, change, Express anything relating to the issue, or anything even once after that. It so blatantly comes off as an excuse to get him into space to quip with the guardians. A focus tested writing decision because people liked it in infinity war.

Ffs, as far as his arc is now, ragnarok and infinity war may as well have not even happened, for all they mattered for him. Asgard is on earth now, and there's less of them. Not like they mattered much to start. Whoop de doo.

The thing with Thor is that he's never been a character to outwardly show his anguish. He plays off everything as a joke because doing anything else would make him seem weak. It's literally what he did throughout most of Ragnarok and even Infinity War.

But there's still quite a few great scenes that show where he's at mentally. Him breaking down at the mere mention of Thanos' name. Another really great one that I don't see mentioned enough is him retrieving Mjolnir from the past. When the hammer actually comes to him, he says "I'm still worthy!" as if he's shocked that it worked.

Reminder that Thor is probably the most boastful and prideful of all the Avengers, and yet he had doubt about whether he was worthy enough to wield Mjolnir. When have we ever seen Thor doubt himself? And that's kinda where Thor's at right now. Sure, he didn't drastically change as much as the other characters, but that's kinda the point. Defeating Thanos and bringing back the snap victims didn't undo everything he had to go through, and it's why even after defeating Thanos, he passed on leadership of Asgard to Valkyrie. He felt he wasn't fit to lead. Even the Thor of Infinity War (pre-snap) wouldn't have made that decision.

Also worth noting that Endgame wasn't the conclusion of Thor's story arc in the first place.

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