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Topic	Alabama to ban transgender surgeries and hormone blockers for teenagers.
UnfairRepresent 03/12/20 8:00:15 PM #345:	Tenlaar posted... What exactly do you think that you're saying when you say that whether a transgender child grows up to be a transgender adult is based on whether they continue to hold the same convictions? Do you know what the word conviction means? It is a firmly held belief or opinion. That doesn't make it a choice. No one wakes up one day and goes "I'm a girl now!" and then wakes up the next and goes "Naw I'm a boy!" Well some people do but they're dumb. But a child may 100% believe something as much as they believe anything else in the world with an undeveloped brain and strong passionate convictions about it. Then decades later no longer have those convictions. When I was a kid I thought animal life should be viewed as equal to human life. A dog has the same value as a human. A man who kills a cat deserves life in prison. There is nothing intrinsically more valuable about a hamster than a human being. I literally didn't comprehend the value or concept of love and intellect and consciousness and pain and desire and thought. As an adult I find that stance I used to hold absurd. but I wasnt lying. I didn't "Choose" that belief and I didn't "Choose" to negate it. My convictions just changed. Convictions I was once certain of changed as my brain developed and I understood more of the world around me and what things actually were. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say you have done the same on different things. A child can have a 100% earnest conviction they believe as strongly as they believe anything else in life. The same person can completely reject the same thought decades later without any concious thought or intent. Remember we're talking about people who we don't consider developed enough to comprehend their own diets or bedtimes or safety. But we are expecting them to comprehend the intricacies of what gender is, gender's place in society and their place in the world. And also we're simutaniously expecting doctors to be able to tell which of these convictions are permanent and which aren't. Then if the adult doesn't think the same way, it's the doctors fault for not having vague unspecified "Higher Standards" when she was deciding to block puberty. I just can't accept such a simplistic view on the matter. It seems childish no pun intended. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:935597781] in Alabama to... [t:78463642]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted...</cite> <quote> What exactly do you think that you're saying when you say that whether a transgender child grows up to be a transgender adult is based on whether they continue to hold the same convictions? Do you know what the word conviction means? It is a firmly held belief or opinion. </quote> That doesn't make it a choice. No one wakes up one day and goes "I'm a girl now!" and then wakes up the next and goes "Naw I'm a boy!" Well some people do but they're dumb. But a child may 100% believe something as much as they believe anything else in the world with an undeveloped brain and strong passionate convictions about it. Then decades later no longer have those convictions. When I was a kid I thought animal life should be viewed as equal to human life. A dog has the same value as a human. A man who kills a cat deserves life in prison. There is nothing intrinsically more valuable about a hamster than a human being. I literally didn't comprehend the value or concept of love and intellect and consciousness and pain and desire and thought. As an adult I find that stance I used to hold absurd. but I wasnt lying. I didn't "Choose" that belief and I didn't "Choose" to negate it. My convictions just changed. Convictions I was once certain of changed as my brain developed and I understood more of the world around me and what things actually were. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say you have done the same on different things. A child can have a 100% earnest conviction they believe as strongly as they believe anything else in life. The same person can completely reject the same thought decades later without any concious thought or intent. Remember we're talking about people who we don't consider developed enough to comprehend their own diets or bedtimes or safety. But we are expecting them to comprehend the intricacies of what gender is, gender's place in society and their place in the world. And also we're simutaniously expecting doctors to be able to tell which of these convictions are permanent and which aren't. Then if the adult doesn't think the same way, it's the doctors fault for not having vague unspecified "Higher Standards" when she was deciding to block puberty. I just can't accept such a simplistic view on the matter. It seems childish no pun intended. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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