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I guess that sign off is one of those things that gets lost in time.

It's kind of like how kids growing up in the 50's and 60's talk about how they only had three channels. That local sign off is something that went away by the 90's.

Skye Reynolds posted...

As best I can tell, Nancy never actually wakes up in the first movie. The alarm going off and everything across the street is just a part of her dream.

Pretty much. Nancy does say to Fred "I know the secret now. It's all a dream" before taking away his power. Part of the confusion is Bob Shaye making Craven change the ending from a happy one to a scary ending in case a sequel could be made. Anyway, everything is a dream after Nancy goes to sleep. She eventually wakes from it as is implied from both Freddy's Revenge and Dream Warriors, but fails to stop Krueger.

yusiko posted...

also for all the gay subtext in the second film its kind of offensive that jessie is saved with heterosexuality!

I agree to a point. The filmmakers and much of the crew had no idea about the homosexual subtext while the writer himself flip flops every other year about it being intentional or it being a coincidence. There's way too much to ignore ("he's trying to get inside of me", Jesse ditching Lisa to spend the night with Ron, the S&M bar, the coach being hit in the face with balls, the Probe game, "No Girls Allowed" sign on the door, etc.), but I think for the director and much of the cast / crew, it's supposed to be a story about how the power of love defeats evil.

With the homosexual subtext in mind, it's much more disingenuous than how you put it. Homosexuality is connected with Freddy Krueger and Jesse losing control of himself therefor it's "bad" as far as the message goes.

Something that always me shake my head is that the filmmakers tried to replace Robert Englund as Freddy under the belief that anyone could put on a mask and replicate his performance. If you check the shower sequence (which is on youtube as a 40 sec clip that I can't post on the site), you can glimpse Freddy through the steam. Notice how stiff his walk is, as if he's got a stick up his butt (pun intended). That's the replacement and he only lasted for that one shot before everyone realized Englund was needed.

- um, continuity? several witnesses survived Freddy's real world rampage from the second movie, yet he's treated like a boogeyman in this one. you might argue that this film ignores the second movie, but then Nancy should be dead. it was the second film which retconned her murder to an institutionalization.

It's no different than how Freddy's Revenge continued---by making Nancy survive. She was in the dream world and escaped. Remember that you never saw Nancy die, only get driven off along with her friends in a Freddy car. There was more to the event than what we saw. But yes, Dream Warriors totally ignores Freddy's Revenge as does all the other sequels other than a line of dialogue repeated in A New Nightmare. Honestly, there wasn't much of a reason they had to which is a shame as I find Freddy's Revenge one of the high points of the series due to various interpretations one can pull from it.

- the movie does drug PSAs the right way (scary hungry mouths)

As cool as that was, Tara's "I'm beautiful...and bad!" moment is so cringe. Jennifer Rubin was gorgeous, but that hair did her no favors nor did the line of dialogue.

I dig Dream Warriors and think it's solid, but I find it drags a little in the middle. The ending dream sequences rule and the opening is good stuff (the model house, Dokken blasting on the soundtrack), the return of Nancy. Something about the middle where they do the group hypnosis is where it lulls.

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