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Topic	Friendly reminder that Kratom is not a "safe" alternative to anything.
OctilIery 10/18/19 5:32:04 PM #34:	Lost_All_Senses posted... OctilIery posted... yemmy posted... I used kratom to kick methadone and I don't take either one of them anymore. What long term damage has been proven to be caused by eating Kratom? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Anecdotal evidence is not a valid argument. There are lots of things that CAN work that are still a bad potentially dangerous idea. You CAN just quit your addiction cold turkey, you CAN go from being an alcoholic to just drinking in moderation, you CAN replace your meth/heroin/benzo/alcohol addiction with another substance or addiction. But all of those are still bad ideas. The right answer is in-between your guys arguments. Because everyone is different and most will fall into experiences in the middle ground. Then there will be situations where it saved a persons life and there will be situations where it helped ruin a persons life. It's really about finding what uniquely works for you personally The problem with that is that it's going to do a lot more harm than good overall. That's why I picked those examples, they're all things that can work and save a person's life, but suggesting them to someone, or trying them yourself, is incredibly dangerous. If someone does it and makes it work(in this case by carefully managing their dosing and treating the psychological aspects of their addiction without relapsing) then that's great, and they're doing their program. But don't go for something that only helps a small minority of people. <cite>OctilIery posted [p:928940574] in Friendly r... [t:78094554]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted...</cite> <quote>OctilIery posted...</cite> <quote>yemmy posted...</cite> <quote>I used kratom to kick methadone and I don't take either one of them anymore. What long term damage has been proven to be caused by eating Kratom? Or are you just talking out of your ass? </quote> Anecdotal evidence is not a valid argument. There are lots of things that CAN work that are still a bad potentially dangerous idea. You CAN just quit your addiction cold turkey, you CAN go from being an alcoholic to just drinking in moderation, you CAN replace your meth/heroin/benzo/alcohol addiction with another substance or addiction. But all of those are still bad ideas.</quote> The right answer is in-between your guys arguments. Because everyone is different and most will fall into experiences in the middle ground. Then there will be situations where it saved a persons life and there will be situations where it helped ruin a persons life. It's really about finding what uniquely works for you personally</quote> The problem with that is that it's going to do a lot more harm than good overall. That's why I picked those examples, they're all things that can work and save a person's life, but suggesting them to someone, or trying them yourself, is incredibly dangerous. If someone does it and makes it work(in this case by carefully managing their dosing and treating the psychological aspects of their addiction without relapsing) then that's great, and they're doing their program. But don't go for something that only helps a small minority of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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