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TopicDemocrats: "We will sit out or vote Trump if you nominate Warren"
ElatedVenusaur
09/26/19 10:22:58 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
I mean, this probably tells you that voting for Warren (or Sanders) is a good idea, whether you agree with all of their ideas or not.


We really should be careful not to conflate Sanders and Warren. Warren's pulled some kinda sleazy shit this cycle, she's been really shaky on M4A, she favors means-tested solutions over universal ones, etc. There is only one America's Dad, Bernard Sanders.

Yeah, lots of people(especially liberals) like to pretend as though Warren and Sanders are interchangeable on policy, but if you bother to actually dig into it, you find that, on virtually every front, Sanders is significantly to Warren's left. His proposed policies are bigger, bolder, and broader. You can make the argument that Warren's policies are more possible, but I would counter that by acknowledging the framing that something is impossible, you are, in effect, insuring that it isn't! If it comes down to it, I'm sure Bernie will compromise, but I know he'll fight for the best possible compromises in a way Warren is already signaling that she won't.

Also, it bears mentioning, since this is something that's basically never discussed, but they're night-and-day on foreign policy. Warren is extremely orthodox in that sense(and possibly even more pro-Israel than normal), whereas Sanders, for example, seems deeply skeptical of our "special relationships" with Israel and Saudi Arabia and is very dovish across the board.
Basically, anyone whose conflating them is either misinformed or gas-lighting.
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