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TopicDo you consider evolution to be 100% proven fact?
DarkRoast
09/09/19 11:44:51 AM
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joe40001 posted...
DarkRoast posted...
joe40001 posted...
You can find many many cases where people were in severe pain, sought chiropractic treatment and then had the pain decrease or go away entirely. That is evidence.


The only evidence is randomized clinical controlled trials, which Chiropractic routinely fails.

If testimonials are evidence, Crystal Healing is effective.


First of all that's not true, evidence is evidence.

Secondly if a placebo effect causes a consistent and repeatable reduction in pain, and the reduction in pain is the goal than the thing is effective.

But those blindspots in your awareness don't even matter because there is plenty of scientific evidence to support chirpractic care:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3716373/

Time also consulted a doctor about this:
https://time.com/4282617/chiropractor-lower-back-pain/

It's ironic, but people who treat chiropractors as having 0 effectiveness fall at that spike on the low end of the dunning-kruger curve.


Look at the three authors of that article you posted.
In the "Journal of Evidence-Based Alternative Medicine"

It also wasn't a study, but I'm sure you actually read that article

And their summary is damning with false praise

Evidence-based practice has made significant inroads into the chiropractic profession

Basically implying that chiropractic didn't operate under evidence-based practice until recently

And, funnily enough, your Time article is even more skeptical

While the strongest evidence in support of chiropractic involves the treatment of back pain, Schneider says theres also evidence for neck pain and some types of non-migraine headaches. Still, his profession is not without controversy, he says. The controversy comes in when chiropractors make claims about treating non-musculoskeletal conditionsclaims he says have little to no basis in science.

This failure to present a unified front is the biggest problem facing chiropractors today, says Dr. Scott Haldeman, a neurologist and chiropractor who teaches at both UCLA and UC Irvine. You could walk into a chiropractors office and find someone who is a pure back-and-neck-pain guya guy who has embraced the scientific researchor someone who says he can cure all things and provide general wellness, Haldeman explains.


If that isn't a ringing endorsement of the profession, I don't know what is.

And you said it was "by a doctor." I suggest you read again:

I'm a regular contributor at TIME, Medium, Food & Wine, Men's Health, and Vice Media (Tonic). My recent work has also appeared in Playboy, Robb Report, Popular Mechanics, Everyday Health, Sports Illustrated, and elsewhere. Ive received reporting awards from the Society of Professional Journalists and the Maryland, Delaware, and D.C. Press Association. Im always open to new professional opportunities.
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