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Topic	Ignorant person: "Im tired of the politics in videogames nowadays!"
Giblet_Enjoyer 08/26/19 2:13:17 AM #172:	Darmik posted... But the opposite happens way more often than this. More often games are shifted to appeal to the COD audience. Dead Rising, Resident Evil, Hitman, Splinter Cell etc. That's not the opposite though, that's a different type of the same thing, and it proves my point. The games in those franchises that got shat on relentlessly and suffered sales-wise did so because they went after an audience that isn't interested in that type of game no matter what. Their original audience is alienated and in exchange, they gain...drum roll...nothing at all. Darmik posted... Like what? What would have changed if BFV had a guy on the cover? Well it probably would have sold better, for one. It sold worse than BF1 and 3. As you yourself acknowledge a little later here with TLoU2, companies understand that putting a female on the cover of games (ones in genres men mostly play, at least) is a no-no unless maybe she's sexed up. Darmik posted... And what games are those? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games#Genre_preferences FPS games' audiences consist of just 7% females according to this (according to Quantic Foundry). Other typical AAA "core" genres range from like 26% and lower. You can argue that the divide is just due to catering to males but I really doubt that women mind having to play as a burly, swearing dude who punches things THAT much. I seriously doubt that accounts for the massive differences. Darmik posted... Alter or expand? It depends on what game you're talking about. That's part of it but it also depends on HOW it's done. If you just include females on the cover then that's better than just having -a- girl. Otherwise yeah you're probably gonna be sending a message that the game is for girls, to people who don't care about such a game to begin with. Some games can get away with that, like Overwatch (Tracer is the only char. on the cover) but RIP if you try that shit with something that was seen as masculine like Gears. The correct way is to have an ensemble on the cover of males and females, THAT is how you signal that the game is for everyone ~~I chopped your post up out of order somehow, whatever~~ --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:926553762] in Ignorant p... [t:77963453]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>But the opposite happens way more often than this. More often games are shifted to appeal to the COD audience. Dead Rising, Resident Evil, Hitman, Splinter Cell etc.</quote> That's not the opposite though, that's a different type of the same thing, and it proves my point. The games in those franchises that got shat on relentlessly and suffered sales-wise did so because they went after an audience that isn't interested in that type of game no matter what. Their original audience is alienated and in exchange, they gain...drum roll...nothing at all. Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Like what? What would have changed if BFV had a guy on the cover?</quote> Well it probably would have sold better, for one. It sold worse than BF1 and 3. As you yourself acknowledge a little later here with TLoU2, companies understand that putting a female on the cover of games (ones in genres men mostly play, at least) is a no-no unless maybe she's sexed up. Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>And what games are those?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games#Genre_preferences FPS games' audiences consist of just 7% females according to this (according to Quantic Foundry). Other typical AAA "core" genres range from like 26% and lower. You can argue that the divide is just due to catering to males but I really doubt that women mind having to play as a burly, swearing dude who punches things THAT much. I seriously doubt that accounts for the massive differences. Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Alter or expand? It depends on what game you're talking about.</quote> That's part of it but it also depends on HOW it's done. If you just include females on the cover then that's better than just having -a- girl. Otherwise yeah you're probably gonna be sending a message that the game is for girls, to people who don't care about such a game to begin with. Some games can get away with that, like Overwatch (Tracer is the only char. on the cover) but RIP if you try that shit with something that was seen as masculine like Gears. The correct way is to have an ensemble on the cover of males and females, THAT is how you signal that the game is for everyone I chopped your post up out of order somehow, whatever --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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