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Topici really hate socialism because of how it fetishizes labor
ssjevot
06/18/19 1:21:16 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
ssjevot posted...
I actually wonder how many would want all the world's resources equally distributed. Like how many of them want to live off $14,000 a year? And that's assuming total world GDP wouldn't decrease under such a system. Not staking a position myself here, just was always my impression meeting self-described socialists that most want an upper-middle class life-style without working, not everyone to have a truly equal distribution of resources around the world.


Socialists want to abolish wage labor so idk where the 14k figure comes from. Then you have to consider not having to pay for housing, education, healthcare, etc. It's also an inaccurate cliche that socialists aim for absolute equality or w/e. The goal is worker control of production, not some abstract Jordan Peterson-esque equality of outcome nonsense.


I just took all the worlds GDP and divided it equally. All those things you mentioned not having to pay for would have to come from that GDP. It would have to be taxes out of your $14k a year income. You're talking about welfare state policies when you say things like free housing, education, healthcare etc. Which are unrelated to socialism or the distribution of resources. Almost all capitalist countries have welfare states that provide "free" (tax payer funded) housing, education, healthcare, etc. to varying degrees. But they also have massive income inequality (also to varying degrees). I'm simply proposing a thought experiment where all the world's GDP is equally distributed and wondering how many would actually want to live like that. You can't just create non-existent extra GDP to make the thought experiment more tolerable.
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