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TopicAnyone against Marijuana?
sktgamer_13dude
05/20/19 6:38:35 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Damage to brain:

https://openarchive.ki.se/xmlui/handle/10616/38245
https://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.full

Both of those are really big on the whole "it's worse for you when you're younger while your mind is still developing," which is why states are having the age requirement be at least 21. Second link had some interesting things that surprised me a little tbf. Also calling marijuana a gateway drug is legitimately hilarious.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Cancer + heart conditions + Stroke increased risk:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26874461

The drugabuse.gov site was just "well there's no real studies, but it could!!!" and then it explained that a small spike in blood pressure + higher heart rate means you have a higher chance at heart attack when you first smoke it. I'd argue that those who get a heart attack while smoking were already tipping the scale, that's whatever. The rest of that site was garbage though, which isn't surprising when it's literally called "drugabuse.gov".

For your real article, I wish there was more of the data, and maybe I just don't know how to actually get to the article past the abstract. But for now, it seems like it's trying to make a cause/effect. It seems like you're trying to say marijuana can help cause AIS when there's not enough information about that yet. If the actual article goes more in depth about it, I'm open to reading it.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Erectile Dysfunction, inability to orgasm, increased STI risk, harm to unborn children:

https://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743-6095(15)32873-3/fulltext
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana-medicine
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17671-regular-marijuana-usage-robs-men-of-sexual-highs/

The increased STI risk was only for women, not men. This is all the first time I've heard marijuana being bad for men's orgasms though, as personally it makes it better tbh. Makes some sense though, as earlier with blood pressure/etc. And obviously almost anything is bad for unborn children. As with alcohol (and a bunch of other things), I'd never condone a pregnant woman ingesting marijuana, unless it was facilitated by a doctor (as like a chemo helper?) or something of that nature.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Mental disorders:

https://www.nature.com/news/drop-in-iq-linked-to-heavy-teenage-cannabis-use-1.11278
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22927402
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain
https://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.full (see also damage to brain)
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/how-does-marijuana-produce-its-effects

Your nature link literally:
Lets keep some perspective. This is not huge,"..."Youre not becoming completely demented. Of course, its better to still have your extra eight IQ points, but its not something thats enough to draw medical attention.


Your third link:
In one recent example, Barbara Weiland, PhD, at the University of Colorado at Boulder, and colleagues attempted to replicate Gilman's study in adolescents and adults who smoked marijuana daily. But Weiland's team argued that previous studies, including Gilman's, failed to adequately control for alcohol use by the participants. After carefully matching for alcohol intake in the control and experimental subjects, the researchers failed to find physical differences in the nucleus acumbens or the amygdala of daily marijuana smokers (Journal of Neuroscience, 2015).


Like, I agree teens shouldn't smoke it, but stop your reefer madness bullshit.
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