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Topic	Video footage shows that Proud Boys were instigating fight
averagejoel 12/28/18 8:45:44 AM #55:	Ryuko_Chan posted... averagejoel posted... Ryuko_Chan posted... averagejoel posted... Ryuko_Chan posted... just because someone scares you doesnt make attacking them self defence that... is not what I was saying at all what are you saying? Fascism is an inherently violent ideology and anyone who follows it is an inherent threat to anyone who would be marginalized under fascism. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to: women, people of colour, religious minorities, LGBT+ people, and people with any sort of disability. Fascists, because they follow such an ideology, are inherently instigating regardless of any specific action on their part. For any of those groups, any action taken against a fascist is self-defense But everyone should have free speech. And if you punch one of those guys then they go home and dont change their beliefs. Maybe it will even radicalize them. But if you debate them you can change them. this has nothing to do with free speech. even if it did, fascists' free speech is less important than the lives of the people they threaten (and again, they threaten those people just by existing) making fascists afraid to go outside is indisputably a good thing. if no fascist could safely step outside again, the world would be a much better place also you are incorrect about debate. it's not an effective tool for... anything really. deplatforming them and attacking them physically are both far more effective for neutralizing them as a threat now I have addressed all your points. please don't move the goalposts again --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914819327] in Video foot... [t:77337862]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryuko_Chan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryuko_Chan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ryuko_Chan posted...</cite> <quote>just because someone scares you doesnt make attacking them self defence</quote> that... is not what I was saying at all</quote> what are you saying?</quote> Fascism is an inherently violent ideology and anyone who follows it is an inherent threat to anyone who would be marginalized under fascism. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to: women, people of colour, religious minorities, LGBT+ people, and people with any sort of disability. Fascists, because they follow such an ideology, are inherently instigating regardless of any specific action on their part. For any of those groups, any action taken against a fascist is self-defense</quote> But everyone should have free speech. And if you punch one of those guys then they go home and dont change their beliefs. Maybe it will even radicalize them. But if you debate them you can change them.</quote> this has nothing to do with free speech. even if it did, fascists' free speech is less important than the lives of the people they threaten (and again, they threaten those people just by existing) making fascists afraid to go outside is indisputably a good thing. if no fascist could safely step outside again, the world would be a much better place also you are incorrect about debate. it's not an effective tool for... anything really. deplatforming them and attacking them physically are both far more effective for neutralizing them as a threat now I have addressed all your points. please don't move the goalposts again --- peanut butter and dick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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