just because someone scares you doesnt make attacking them self defence
that... is not what I was saying at all
what are you saying?
Fascism is an inherently violent ideology and anyone who follows it is an inherent threat to anyone who would be marginalized under fascism. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to: women, people of colour, religious minorities, LGBT+ people, and people with any sort of disability.
Fascists, because they follow such an ideology, are inherently instigating regardless of any specific action on their part.
For any of those groups, any action taken against a fascist is self-defense
But everyone should have free speech.
And if you punch one of those guys then they go home and dont change their beliefs. Maybe it will even radicalize them. But if you debate them you can change them.
So are you defending the fascists or did you miss what is going on here?
Neither, Im speaking in general.
So there are good people on both sides is your takeaway ---