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Topic	French Police Threaten to join protestors, demand better pay + conditions
averagejoel 12/21/18 8:06:40 AM #113:	Kineth posted... Anti-245 posted... Kineth posted... It doesn't, but it can coexist with them. Still, what is the "that" in those 2 sentences, you were being too general there. What you described was state capitalism. The state provides some services to the population but actual power and resources are generated concentrated in the hands of small elite class. They call it a mixed economy but I believe that's an unecsessary term. Just call it state capitalism. I'm legit not sure if you're trolling me or not. On a global scale, socialist states and capitalist states can exist simultaneously, so technically you're not entirely wrong. I'm guessing that's not what you meant by "coexist" though The presence of some public services doesn't mean the US isn't capitalist. It doesn't make it a "mixed economy" either. It's just capitalist with some public services. Socialism and Capitalism are mutually exclusive within the same country because the latter necessitates that the means of production be privately owned and used to concetrate wealth in the hands of a small number of people, while the former requires, among other things, that that not be the case (though the specific conditions vary between different types of socialism). socialism is also implemented with the explicit goal of an eventual transition to full communism, while capitalism is mostly concerned with preventing socialist revolution from taking place and concentration of wealth. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:914490959] in French Pol... [t:77319480]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anti-245 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>It doesn't, but it can coexist with them. Still, what is the "that" in those 2 sentences, you were being too general there.</quote> What you described was state capitalism. The state provides some services to the population but actual power and resources are generated concentrated in the hands of small elite class. They call it a mixed economy but I believe that's an unecsessary term. Just call it state capitalism.</quote> I'm legit not sure if you're trolling me or not.</quote> On a global scale, socialist states and capitalist states can exist simultaneously, so technically you're not entirely wrong. I'm guessing that's not what you meant by "coexist" though The presence of some public services doesn't mean the US isn't capitalist. It doesn't make it a "mixed economy" either. It's just capitalist with some public services. Socialism and Capitalism are mutually exclusive within the same country because the latter necessitates that the means of production be privately owned and used to concetrate wealth in the hands of a small number of people, while the former requires, among other things, that that not be the case (though the specific conditions vary between different types of socialism). socialism is also implemented with the explicit goal of an eventual transition to full communism, while capitalism is mostly concerned with preventing socialist revolution from taking place and concentration of wealth. --- peanut butter and dick</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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