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Topic	Why do they call it circumcision instead of male genitalia mutilation?
LinkPizza 11/29/18 1:48:14 PM #173:	Kyuubi4269 posted... LinkPizza posted... People literally do that. All the time. People choose their children diet's and school's and literally everything else. People choose whether to get their children vaccinated or not. Like everything. For better or for worse, parents choose everything for their children. And can until the child is old enough to make their own decisions. And this is for worse and you know it, but you don't care as you like to look at your kid's dick. You are legally allowed to be a shit parent, but you aren't morally. I dont think its worse. And I dont think youre any qualified to tell anyone how to be a good parent. Or would be the judge of that. Or that literally one thing (circumcision) is the line between good or bad parent. adjl posted... Unless you take that choice away from them by making an irreversible change. I agree that parents should have control over their children for matters of medical necessity, because of course they should. Children would die if doctors had to wait for their fully-informed consent to provide necessary care, and using parental consent as a proxy for their consent is the best way to ensure that doesn't happen (there is ample room to argue that children understand their conditions better than we give them credit for and could decide more for themselves, but that's obviously irrelevant to talking about newborns). This is not a matter of medical necessity (in the vast majority of cases and the only ones we're talking about). This is a cosmetic procedure. You wouldn't give a newborn a nose job (even ignoring the fact that you'd need several more surgeries over the course of their life to keep up with their growth). Why, then, is it so acceptable to perform another cosmetic surgery? Because it can always be a medical procedure. And well never know why most people do it. It could be tradition, or it could be because it takes away the chance of a medical problem later. adjl posted... And that point is absolute nonsense. Whatever you choose as a parent will dictate whether or not your son has a foreskin for the duration of their childhood. That's all. After that, if you didn't circumcise them, they're free to choose. If they're more likely to choose what they already have? That's irrelevant. They are still 100% able to choose for themselves, which is what's important. If you did circumcise them, however, you've decided that they aren't going to have one for the rest of their life, and they don't get a choice at all. As I said, they technically do get to choose. But its literally in favor or uncircumcised. For the main reason that people dont normally want to change they dick unless necessary after having it for so long. adjl posted... Fair? It's not a competition. This isn't about winning an internet argument about which dicks are better, it's about not performing cosmetic surgery on newborns. Ensuring "fairness" in the outcome couldn't possibly matter less. Just let people decide for themselves what they want their junk to look like and stop mutilating baby dicks. Fair as in a fair choice. Thats all. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:913251180] in Why do the... [t:77247204]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>People literally do that. All the time. People choose their children diet's and school's and literally everything else. People choose whether to get their children vaccinated or not. Like everything. For better or for worse, parents choose everything for their children. And can until the child is old enough to make their own decisions.</quote> And this is for worse and you know it, but you don't care as you like to look at your kid's dick. You are legally allowed to be a shit parent, but you aren't morally.</quote> I dont think its worse. And I dont think youre any qualified to tell anyone how to be a good parent. Or would be the judge of that. Or that literally one thing (circumcision) is the line between good or bad parent. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Unless you take that choice away from them by making an irreversible change. I agree that parents should have control over their children for matters of medical necessity, because of course they should. Children would die if doctors had to wait for their fully-informed consent to provide necessary care, and using parental consent as a proxy for their consent is the best way to ensure that doesn't happen (there is ample room to argue that children understand their conditions better than we give them credit for and could decide more for themselves, but that's obviously irrelevant to talking about newborns). This is not a matter of medical necessity (in the vast majority of cases and the only ones we're talking about). This is a cosmetic procedure. You wouldn't give a newborn a nose job (even ignoring the fact that you'd need several more surgeries over the course of their life to keep up with their growth). Why, then, is it so acceptable to perform another cosmetic surgery?</quote> Because it can always be a medical procedure. And well never know why most people do it. It could be tradition, or it could be because it takes away the chance of a medical problem later. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>And that point is absolute nonsense. Whatever you choose as a parent will dictate whether or not your son has a foreskin for the duration of their childhood. That's all. After that, if you didn't circumcise them, they're free to choose. If they're more likely to choose what they already have? That's irrelevant. They are still 100% able to choose for themselves, which is what's important. If you did circumcise them, however, you've decided that they aren't going to have one for the rest of their life, and they don't get a choice at all.</quote>As I said, they technically do get to choose. But its literally in favor or uncircumcised. For the main reason that people dont normally want to change they dick unless necessary after having it for so long. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Fair? It's not a competition. This isn't about winning an internet argument about which dicks are better, it's about not performing cosmetic surgery on newborns. Ensuring "fairness" in the outcome couldn't possibly matter less. Just let people decide for themselves what they want their junk to look like and stop mutilating baby dicks.</quote> Fair as in a fair choice. Thats all. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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