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Topic	Why do they call it circumcision instead of male genitalia mutilation?
_AdjI_ 11/29/18 1:12:41 PM #172:	LinkPizza posted... Once their old enough to make decision, that when they can start choosing what to do. Unless you take that choice away from them by making an irreversible change. I agree that parents should have control over their children for matters of medical necessity, because of course they should. Children would die if doctors had to wait for their fully-informed consent to provide necessary care, and using parental consent as a proxy for their consent is the best way to ensure that doesn't happen (there is ample room to argue that children understand their conditions better than we give them credit for and could decide more for themselves, but that's obviously irrelevant to talking about newborns). This is not a matter of medical necessity (in the vast majority of cases and the only ones we're talking about). This is a cosmetic procedure. You wouldn't give a newborn a nose job (even ignoring the fact that you'd need several more surgeries over the course of their life to keep up with their growth). Why, then, is it so acceptable to perform another cosmetic surgery? LinkPizza posted... My whole point is, either way, you're basically choosing for them. And that point is absolute nonsense. Whatever you choose as a parent will dictate whether or not your son has a foreskin for the duration of their childhood. That's all. After that, if you didn't circumcise them, they're free to choose. If they're more likely to choose what they already have? That's irrelevant. They are still 100% able to choose for themselves, which is what's important. If you did circumcise them, however, you've decided that they aren't going to have one for the rest of their life, and they don't get a choice at all. LinkPizza posted... The only way to make it fair Fair? It's not a competition. This isn't about winning an internet argument about which dicks are better, it's about not performing cosmetic surgery on newborns. Ensuring "fairness" in the outcome couldn't possibly matter less. Just let people decide for themselves what they want their junk to look like and stop mutilating baby dicks. <cite>_AdjI_ posted [p:913249218] in Why do the... [t:77247204]...</cite> <quote><cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>Once their old enough to make decision, that when they can start choosing what to do. </quote> Unless you take that choice away from them by making an irreversible change. I agree that parents should have control over their children for matters of medical necessity, because of course they should. Children would die if doctors had to wait for their fully-informed consent to provide necessary care, and using parental consent as a proxy for their consent is the best way to ensure that doesn't happen (there is ample room to argue that children understand their conditions better than we give them credit for and could decide more for themselves, but that's obviously irrelevant to talking about newborns). This is not a matter of medical necessity (in the vast majority of cases and the only ones we're talking about). This is a cosmetic procedure. You wouldn't give a newborn a nose job (even ignoring the fact that you'd need several more surgeries over the course of their life to keep up with their growth). Why, then, is it so acceptable to perform another cosmetic surgery? <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote>My whole point is, either way, you're basically choosing for them. </quote> And that point is absolute nonsense. Whatever you choose as a parent will dictate whether or not your son has a foreskin for the duration of their childhood. That's all. After that, if you didn't circumcise them, they're free to choose. If they're more likely to choose what they already have? That's irrelevant. They are still 100% able to choose for themselves, which is what's important. If you did circumcise them, however, you've decided that they aren't going to have one for the rest of their life, and they don't get a choice at all. <cite>LinkPizza posted...</cite> <quote> The only way to make it fair</quote> Fair? It's not a competition. This isn't about winning an internet argument about which dicks are better, it's about not performing cosmetic surgery on newborns. Ensuring "fairness" in the outcome couldn't possibly matter less. Just let people decide for themselves what they want their junk to look like and stop mutilating baby dicks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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