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Topic	Why do they call it circumcision instead of male genitalia mutilation?
LinkPizza 11/28/18 2:46:26 PM #92:	_AdjI_ posted... If a guy steals $20 from you, you have been wronged. Depending on the circumstances, you may not mind being wronged or feel that you've been wronged, but the fact remains that stealing $20 from somebody is wrong and should therefore be (and is) illegal. Similarly, conducting elective surgical procedures on babies (or anyone else who can't consent) is wrong. Those who have received such surgery may not feel wronged, and may even feel that the outcome is what they would have chosen for themselves, but the fact remains that conducting elective surgery on somebody who can't consent is wrong, and should be illegal. No. I dont feel wronged becuase I havent been wronged. Also, people can have stuff done on them without their consent because they have someone who has to consent for them. Such as adults who need surgery now and ask the next of kin to consent. Or parents who have to take children in for surgery and have to consent. So, this isnt different. A baby cant consent. So the parents do it for them. Also, just because you think being circumcised is me being wronged, it doesnt make it so. And even if it was, which its not, then Id be glad it happened. _AdjI_ posted... Not as irreversibly as surgery will. Furthermore, that statement is not carte blanche to do whatever you want to do to your child. Many parenting decisions are considered more harmful than beneficial, and are therefore considered not okay (as an aside, a good many people who were unambiguously abused as children defend such parenting strategies with "I turned out fine so beating kids should be legal," which has obvious parallels to this discussion). Before proceeding with any parenting decision, you need to weigh the benefits and harms. Circumcision has no tangible medical benefit in the vast majority of situations (unless you fail to teach your kid how to wash themselves), and has the potential for some serious side effects, even without considering that it takes the choice away from them later in life. That alone should be enough to convince everyone that it's not a good idea, yet somehow the majority continues with "his might as well look like mine." Except there are medical benefits. We talked about them earlier. Just because it doesnt affect everyone doesnt mean their arent any at all. But while lots of parenting doesnt permanently change a childs physical appearance doesnt mean everything. Theres also mental and emotional. In the end, things probably wont change. And honestly, thats probably fine and for the best... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:913193962] in Why do the... [t:77247204]...</cite> <quote><cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>If a guy steals $20 from you, you have been wronged. Depending on the circumstances, you may not mind being wronged or feel that you've been wronged, but the fact remains that stealing $20 from somebody is wrong and should therefore be (and is) illegal. Similarly, conducting elective surgical procedures on babies (or anyone else who can't consent) is wrong. Those who have received such surgery may not feel wronged, and may even feel that the outcome is what they would have chosen for themselves, but the fact remains that conducting elective surgery on somebody who can't consent is wrong, and should be illegal.</quote> No. I dont feel wronged becuase I havent been wronged. Also, people can have stuff done on them without their consent because they have someone who has to consent for them. Such as adults who need surgery now and ask the next of kin to consent. Or parents who have to take children in for surgery and have to consent. So, this isnt different. A baby cant consent. So the parents do it for them. Also, just because you think being circumcised is me being wronged, it doesnt make it so. And even if it was, which its not, then Id be glad it happened. <cite>_AdjI_ posted...</cite> <quote>Not as irreversibly as surgery will. Furthermore, that statement is not carte blanche to do whatever you want to do to your child. Many parenting decisions are considered more harmful than beneficial, and are therefore considered not okay (as an aside, a good many people who were unambiguously abused as children defend such parenting strategies with "I turned out fine so beating kids should be legal," which has obvious parallels to this discussion). Before proceeding with any parenting decision, you need to weigh the benefits and harms. Circumcision has no tangible medical benefit in the vast majority of situations (unless you fail to teach your kid how to wash themselves), and has the potential for some serious side effects, even without considering that it takes the choice away from them later in life. That alone should be enough to convince everyone that it's not a good idea, yet somehow the majority continues with "his might as well look like mine."</quote> Except there are medical benefits. We talked about them earlier. Just because it doesnt affect everyone doesnt mean their arent any at all. But while lots of parenting doesnt permanently change a childs physical appearance doesnt mean everything. Theres also mental and emotional. In the end, things probably wont change. And honestly, thats probably fine and for the best... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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