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Topic	Why are scientists with belief in aliens OK but not a belief in a divine being?
Wutobliteration 11/17/18 11:30:36 AM #50:	action52 posted... There is nothing wrong with believing in some sort of divine being as long as you don't let that belief affect what you believe in the realm of science. Like if you believe that God exists outside everything we understand about the universe, but that your job as a scientist is to study the world as we can observe and test it. Your religion affects your beliefs in philosophy and morality but not the natural world or science. I don't think there's anything wrong with a scientist like that. However too frequently Christians think they should be able to take what they believe based on their gut and the bible and have it get the same level of credence as the large body of knowledge that science has built. Often they think their criticisms and doubts based on a very superficial knowledge of evolution should be enough to topple something that millions of people have devoted their lives to studying and building. They are wrong, and so is the TC of course. Don't bring Christianity in this. I'm just talking about theism/deism in general. It's the hypocrisy that scientists have in how religion clouds science. It doesn't have to be. In the past (in Darwin's time), it wasn't even science vs religion. It was science AND religion. People could co-exist the idea of evolution with a divine creator. Darwin himself proclaimed he reckoned the existence of a divine being. So did Einstein. Darwin was a deist. But then Stephen Hawking didn't. The situation one is in also influences their belief. Nowadays, some have grown too far on the other way, being completely against a divine creator. That's the problem in itself and the paradox. I find it's due to being against religion, the perception of religion. That changes our views. We see ourselves disproving religion and so begin to think more and more, 'ok, a god has no place here'. You think you're seeing from the right perspective, yet limiting that perspective, to one solely on what you can see and what you can hear. Also forget the aliens things. I know I kinda derailed off-topic way back ago. Gotta sleep now gg. <cite>Wutobliteration posted [p:912561320] in Why are sc... [t:77210942]...</cite> <quote><cite>action52 posted...</cite> <quote>There is nothing wrong with believing in some sort of divine being as long as you don't let that belief affect what you believe in the realm of science. Like if you believe that God exists outside everything we understand about the universe, but that your job as a scientist is to study the world as we can observe and test it. Your religion affects your beliefs in philosophy and morality but not the natural world or science. I don't think there's anything wrong with a scientist like that. However too frequently Christians think they should be able to take what they believe based on their gut and the bible and have it get the same level of credence as the large body of knowledge that science has built. Often they think their criticisms and doubts based on a very superficial knowledge of evolution should be enough to topple something that millions of people have devoted their lives to studying and building. They are wrong, and so is the TC of course.</quote> Don't bring Christianity in this. I'm just talking about theism/deism in general. It's the hypocrisy that scientists have in how religion clouds science. It doesn't have to be. In the past (in Darwin's time), it wasn't even science vs religion. It was science AND religion. People could co-exist the idea of evolution with a divine creator. Darwin himself proclaimed he reckoned the existence of a divine being. So did Einstein. Darwin was a deist. But then Stephen Hawking didn't. The situation one is in also influences their belief. Nowadays, some have grown too far on the other way, being completely against a divine creator. That's the problem in itself and the paradox. I find it's due to being against religion, the perception of religion. That changes our views. We see ourselves disproving religion and so begin to think more and more, 'ok, a god has no place here'. You think you're seeing from the right perspective, yet limiting that perspective, to one solely on what you can see and what you can hear. Also forget the aliens things. I know I kinda derailed off-topic way back ago. Gotta sleep now gg.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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