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OctilIery posted...

gunplagirl posted...

OctilIery posted...

gunplagirl posted...

This is from 2014

And injuries of this nature are common in fighting sports like MMA

Stop trying to use these extremely rare events as an excuse to validate your hatred of trans women

Dude, I'm LGBT pro, but the simple fact is that, depending on when you transition, you can have Un unfair advantage in sporting events. It isn't hatred, it's an unfortunate necessity.

That same "unfair advantage" bull shit has been brought up when pointing out how most professional athletes in football, basketball, and races (especially endurance ones) are black. And yes, there's differences in bone and muscle density between races, there's this entire specialized field called "forensic anthropology" and that's one of the biggest things you learn in that field.

So no, you aren't pro-lgbt if you're against trans people. You're probably not even pro-lgb.

But surely you know more than the god damned medical and scientific people who ultimately established the guidelines for Olympic participants. And the guidelines Fallon is participating under are stricter than the Olympic ones.

ROFL. No. I'm pro LGBT, but I'm also pro fairness in sports. The differences between races are nowhere near the same as the differences between men and women, and those differences do not go away after transition. That is scientific fact supported by the medical community.

I'm not saying a blanket ban on all transgender contestants needs to happen, but it DOES need to be considered, as there is little difference between letting many biological women participate, and letting men participate.

If you ever say "I'm pro (anything) BUT" then guess what that means? The but means you've got some nitpicking exception and that exception means no, you're not actually pro-T. You're ignoring the much more immediate effects of hormones and to even compete a trans athlete needs to have been on them for 2 years. In the case of fallon it was also required she be post GCS. You said stuff about it being the accepted medical community concensus but you ignored everything that actually makes those meaningful differences between them.

And yes, those differenced do go away after being on hormones, trans athletes actually have to test at lower t levels than a large amount of cis women can naturally get to throughout the ovulation cycle. As a result of those low t levels it's harder to maintain muscle mass than it is for cis women. Bone density being used as an excuse is also a common argument used against black athletes.

So no, you're not pro LGBT if you want to use outdated or false evidence to verify throwing the T under the bus. Maybe try listening to trans people instead of saying you know better and you might actually be on your way to being pro T.
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