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Topic	Villains II Mock Bracket
MetalmindStats 11/05/18 4:43:00 PM #30:	Wreath posted... Needs Nemesis from resident evil 3 Nemesis was my very last cut :( Underleveled posted... Anyway now that I'm on a computer here are the ones I really question (there are others that are more of a rival than a straight-up villain but I think Allen has a loose enough definition at this point to let them slide) (4) Incineroar - Yeah I don't really get it. (3) Miles Edgeworth - I definitely wouldn't classify him as a villain. Even with rivals being eligible, his arc really doesn't qualify him to be in a contest like this. Put in Manfred Von Karma instead. (8) Kratos Aurion - ~~I guess if you count Snape as a villain then Kratos qualifies but he's pretty clearly playing for the good guys.~~ Just have Mithos in like last time. (3) Mewtwo - Has Mewtwo ever actually been depicted as an antagonist in the games moreso than any other Pokemon? (15) Tom Nook - Is his status as a villain actually canon? I always thought it was just a meme. I can't think of anything more to say about Incineroar than above. I don't really know about Edgeworth, since I haven't played any Ace Attorney game (I know), but as long as he's actively antagonistic towards Phoenix throughout much of the series, that's enough to qualify for a bracket better termed Best Antagonist. Kratos I already addressed above. In the games, Mewtwo's not uniquely antagonistic beyond the 'generic boss' sense of other legendary Pokemon; I just figured it would be considered a major snub for such a broadly-defined bracket if I didn't include it. And Tom Nook's definitely not an outright villain, but my understanding is that he essentially traps the Animal Crossing main character in a growing debt prison with every purchase from him, which is clearly antagonistic. hombad46 posted... scaryice posted... Some characters from the last decade that deserve to be there: Caius Ballad (Final Fantasy 13-2) David (Last of Us) Gwyn (Dark Souls) Irene Engel (Wolfenstein) Jack Baker (Resident Evil 7) Keeper (Evil Within) Lady Maria (Bloodborne) Pagan Min (Far Cry 4) How about Jin/Malos from Xenoblade 2? Or Ghirahim from Skyward Sword? Too bad comic book characters aren't allowed or I'd say ~~Doc Ock~~ from the latest Spider-Man game. Also after all this Smash Ultimate stuff, if a villain contest happened any time soon, Galeem would almost certainly make the cut. I admit, I do not recognize most of these names - given that I recognized a vast majority of the CBX characters upon seeing them in the bracket, for example, that doesn't make me optimistic about their potential. The only ones I could see being allowed and having some strength are Ghirahim and Lady Maria, and that's assuming the former isn't held back by his game's reception. I'm pleased to see all this discussion so far - keep it up, everyone! <cite>MetalmindStats posted [p:911867643] in Villains I... [t:77171990]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wreath posted...</cite> <quote>Needs Nemesis from resident evil 3</quote> Nemesis was my very last cut :( <cite>Underleveled posted...</cite> <quote>Anyway now that I'm on a computer here are the ones I really question (there are others that are more of a rival than a straight-up villain but I think Allen has a loose enough definition at this point to let them slide) (4) Incineroar - Yeah I don't really get it. (3) Miles Edgeworth - I definitely wouldn't classify him as a villain. Even with rivals being eligible, his arc really doesn't qualify him to be in a contest like this. Put in Manfred Von Karma instead. (8) Kratos Aurion - I guess if you count Snape as a villain then Kratos qualifies but he's pretty clearly playing for the good guys. Just have Mithos in like last time. (3) Mewtwo - Has Mewtwo ever actually been depicted as an antagonist in the games moreso than any other Pokemon? (15) Tom Nook - Is his status as a villain actually canon? I always thought it was just a meme.</quote> I can't think of anything more to say about Incineroar than above. I don't really know about Edgeworth, since I haven't played any Ace Attorney game (I know), but as long as he's actively antagonistic towards Phoenix throughout much of the series, that's enough to qualify for a bracket better termed Best Antagonist. Kratos I already addressed above. In the games, Mewtwo's not uniquely antagonistic beyond the 'generic boss' sense of other legendary Pokemon; I just figured it would be considered a major snub for such a broadly-defined bracket if I didn't include it. And Tom Nook's definitely not an outright villain, but my understanding is that he essentially traps the Animal Crossing main character in a growing debt prison with every purchase from him, which is clearly antagonistic. <cite>hombad46 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scaryice posted...</cite> <quote>Some characters from the last decade that deserve to be there: Caius Ballad (Final Fantasy 13-2) David (Last of Us) Gwyn (Dark Souls) Irene Engel (Wolfenstein) Jack Baker (Resident Evil 7) Keeper (Evil Within) Lady Maria (Bloodborne) Pagan Min (Far Cry 4)</quote> How about Jin/Malos from Xenoblade 2? Or Ghirahim from Skyward Sword? Too bad comic book characters aren't allowed or I'd say Doc Ock from the latest Spider-Man game. Also after all this Smash Ultimate stuff, if a villain contest happened any time soon, Galeem would almost certainly make the cut.</quote> I admit, I do not recognize most of these names - given that I recognized a vast majority of the CBX characters upon seeing them in the bracket, for example, that doesn't make me optimistic about their potential. The only ones I could see being allowed and having some strength are Ghirahim and Lady Maria, and that's assuming the former isn't held back by his game's reception. I'm pleased to see all this discussion so far - keep it up, everyone!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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