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Zeus posted...

And honestly, any attempt to rewrite the constitution now would be hijacked by special interests, fanatics, etc.

Apparently not, because this has gone pretty much without a hitch.

Zeus posted...

Except there's literally tons of other shit that's happened in those countries other than just terrorist attacks such as, you know, migrant violence... which is literally also a problem in Sweden

So put some numbers to it. Your posts are heavy on invective, light on actual facts. Start backing up your arguments if you want them taken seriously.

Zeus posted...

And I'm calling your bullshit. You purposefully misinterpreted and misrepresented his remarks to fit your agenda and, by pigeonholing it, you can write off the shit actually happening.

He literally said "last night in Sweden". There's no misinterpreting that, no matter how much you try and worm your way out of it.

Zeus posted...

OK, darkknight, your reading assignment for tonight is learning what current trends are and, of course, figuring out a more compelling lie to justify that Sweden's grenade crimes are more a fit for warzones than civilized nations -- a fact acknowledged by Sweden's own officials.

Already done, if you'd bothered to read through the topic:

"The reason why I keep coming back to America's gun problem is because the whole Sweden argument is such utter horseshit and said gun problem is the easiest way to point out why.

I mean, let's take a good, solid look at this. Zeus claimed that Sweden is suffering from "widespread grenade attacks". You claimed there was a "huge spike" in grenade attacks and tied it to refugees. This is all pure, undiluted, bullshit alarmism and I feel like both of you should be smart enough to know that. And a simple look at the numbers reveals the truth - you are more likely to be shot in America than be a victim of a grenade attack in Sweden. Not just a little bit more likely either - multiple orders of magnitude more likely. The odds of you surviving a year in Sweden without being blown up are roughly the same as you surviving *three days* in the US without getting shot.

Conservatives badly want Sweden to be in some huge crisis so they can use it to shriek about socialism and foreigners and Islam and refugees, but it's simply not true. This is not the big, scary boogeyman you desperately want it to be. Sweden was one of the safest places on the planet before 2016 and it's still one of the safest places on the planet in 2018. Unless you are terrified to leave your home every morning for fear of getting shot, you have absolutely zero basis to point fingers at Sweden and say "Look at all the horrible things happening!"

The grenade attacks are awful, the same as any other terrorist-style attack, but - when you actually take a dispassionate look at the numbers - they're all flash and zero substance."

Zeus posted...

So ignorance basically?

Cute deflection, but ineffective.

They could've also spent time teaching about the Tokugawa shogunate, which was pretty much as important to the history of Japan as Jefferson was to the history of America. Or we could have been reading the Epic of King Gesser, one of the most notable works of Mongolian literature in existence.

But we didn't, because there's only so many hours in a day and neither of them were of significant importance from a Canadian perspective, much like Jefferson and Twain.
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