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Topic	45's administration wants to end transgenders
s0nicfan 10/25/18 2:11:41 PM #465:	BJ-blazkowics posted... s0nicfan posted... BJ-blazkowics posted... Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff? I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need. got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct? Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:911147424] in 45's a... [t:77117999]...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BJ-blazkowics posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't you add to the topic rather than trolling with the "lololo trans is lulz" stuff?</quote> I didn't say "lololo trans is lulz". I said "lololo gender fluidity is lulz." That's a significant difference. If gender fluidity is valid, then it isn't tied to a biological marker, so surgery for trans people isn't a medical necessity. If it IS a medical necessity, then it is tied to a biological marker as evidence for that necessity, and therefore it can't be something that changes day-to-day. Even members of the trans community turn away from gender fluidity, because it's mutually exclusive with their stated desire to get gender reassignment surgery covered as a medical need.</quote> got it. So the 48 gender crap stuff is dumb, but trans (mtf, ftm) is legit, correct?</quote> Correct, although I think we still need to advance the science better of accurately determining whether someone has the biological markers of a "real" trans person as opposed to relying on therapy and opinion to make the call, given that it's a life-altering process. We also need better therapy solutions for both pre and post transition individuals because the suicide rate is still way, WAY too high and you can't write that off as "people are mean" because it's still double that of the gay community at the height of the AIDS epidemic. The illusion that "if I change my appearance, the source of all my unhappiness will go away" needs to be broken prior to transition so people don't regret their decisions, much in the way that obese people going through gastric bypass remain depressed once they realize that losing weight doesn't suddenly make them popular or happy. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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