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Topic	do you feel your white privilege?
Taharqa_ 09/20/18 12:51:08 PM #98:	FLUFFYGERM posted... Taharqa_ posted... I see a lot of recoiling at the mere thought of the words 'white privilege'. So 350 years of colonial America and the US enacting laws that literally gave white people legal status above all persons of color = no form of residual intergenerational advantage from these past practices and attitudes that persist in mainstream society today? Do you guys think that all of the paleo-racists died off or had a Care Bear style change of heart in 1964? Most white people start their professional lives with nothing and don't inherit any amount of money or property. So this argument is horse shit and has always been horse shit. There are certainly black people who had a terrible life because of systemic racism even throughout and beyond the Jim Crow years, but no one born today experiences that. And while someone's grandparents or great grandparents suffered and never advanced far because of racism, it's not any different than how my parents and grandparents grew up as destitute farmers in a third world country that collapsed because of communism. There is this thing called the intergenerational transmission of inequality. Jim Crow did not occur in a vacuum, the legacy of those discriminatory practices were transferred to later generations. It controlled where people lived, what kind of job they could get which also had an impact on income, nearly every portion of their public life and the North was just as aggressive in enforcing discrimination laws, especially with their redlining practices. My parents were among the first to integrate into their middle school and had to face angry white mobs every day going into school like Ruby Bridges who is not much older than they are, and this was in 1968. In my hometown police still kept blacks on their side of the tracks and not in the white side of town well into the 70s. There are school districts that were desegregating well into the 90s. Aside from the indignity of 'separate but equal' it was the blatant economic theft that also had a far reaching impact. Things didn't just become equal after Jim Crow went away. 350+ years of racial attitudes did not just go away in the aether after the signing of legislation. Systemic racism doesn't exist 'on paper' today as in "negroes can't do this or that" but the execution of certain laws most certainly target certain groups (i.e voter ID laws), or the obvious disparity in the criminal justice system. It doesn't matter what the writing says, the intent and effect is there. These institutions are made up of individuals, therefore it's systemic. These instances do no happen in a vacuum. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:909120611] in do you fee... [t:77017806]...</cite> <quote><cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Taharqa_ posted...</cite> <quote>I see a lot of recoiling at the mere thought of the words 'white privilege'. So 350 years of colonial America and the US enacting laws that literally gave white people legal status above all persons of color = no form of residual intergenerational advantage from these past practices and attitudes that persist in mainstream society today? Do you guys think that all of the paleo-racists died off or had a Care Bear style change of heart in 1964?</quote> Most white people start their professional lives with nothing and don't inherit any amount of money or property. So this argument is horse shit and has always been horse shit. There are certainly black people who had a terrible life because of systemic racism even throughout and beyond the Jim Crow years, but no one born today experiences that. And while someone's grandparents or great grandparents suffered and never advanced far because of racism, it's not any different than how my parents and grandparents grew up as destitute farmers in a third world country that collapsed because of communism.</quote> There is this thing called the intergenerational transmission of inequality. Jim Crow did not occur in a vacuum, the legacy of those discriminatory practices were transferred to later generations. It controlled where people lived, what kind of job they could get which also had an impact on income, nearly every portion of their public life and the North was just as aggressive in enforcing discrimination laws, especially with their redlining practices. My parents were among the first to integrate into their middle school and had to face angry white mobs every day going into school like Ruby Bridges who is not much older than they are, and this was in 1968. In my hometown police still kept blacks on their side of the tracks and not in the white side of town well into the 70s. There are school districts that were desegregating well into the 90s. Aside from the indignity of 'separate but equal' it was the blatant economic theft that also had a far reaching impact. Things didn't just become equal after Jim Crow went away. 350+ years of racial attitudes did not just go away in the aether after the signing of legislation. Systemic racism doesn't exist 'on paper' today as in "negroes can't do this or that" but the execution of certain laws most certainly target certain groups (i.e voter ID laws), or the obvious disparity in the criminal justice system. It doesn't matter what the writing says, the intent and effect is there. These institutions are made up of individuals, therefore it's systemic. These instances do no happen in a vacuum. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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