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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 191: Hey Now, You're a Lodestar
red sox 777 09/14/18 4:15:51 PM #475:	xp1337 posted... IDK, it's just... say Hardiman was chosen instead of Kavanaugh. I'm pretty damn confident you don't have this **show happening. He'd sail through confirmations and get like 6 Dem votes. There'd be grumbling, but I reject the notion that any SCOTUS nominee was going to end up like this. Kavanaugh was just a terrible choice. Again, McConnell warned Trump ahead of time he'd be the most challenging pick to get confirmed. He wouldn't have to do that if any choice would face the same thing. He'll still be confirmed but that's because the GOP just doesn't care. Unfortunately we can't prove any what-ifs and even if by some miracle Kavanaugh withdrew and Hardiman was nominated in his place today I think the trainwreck that has already occurred and the time that has passed changes the atmosphere and Dems would stall for the midterms at the least. I think this isn't the model either party is using anymore. Both are trying to get the most advantageous justice possible. If Hardiman is 97% and Kavanaugh is 100%, there's no reason for the GOP to compromise to confirm him with 54 votes instead of 51. Obama offered Garland as a compromise and the GOP bet the farm on the election in 2016, which they won. So now they get their pick. If they had lost, Hillary would get to pick and the Dem Senate confirm, anyone she wanted. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:908757664] in Politics C... [t:76989412]...</cite> <quote><cite>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>IDK, it's just... say Hardiman was chosen instead of Kavanaugh. I'm pretty damn confident you don't have this **show happening. He'd sail through confirmations and get like 6 Dem votes. There'd be grumbling, but I reject the notion that any SCOTUS nominee was going to end up like this. Kavanaugh was just a terrible choice. Again, McConnell warned Trump ahead of time he'd be the most challenging pick to get confirmed. He wouldn't have to do that if any choice would face the same thing. He'll still be confirmed but that's because the GOP just doesn't care. Unfortunately we can't prove any what-ifs and even if by some miracle Kavanaugh withdrew and Hardiman was nominated in his place today I think the trainwreck that has already occurred and the time that has passed changes the atmosphere and Dems would stall for the midterms at the least.</quote> I think this isn't the model either party is using anymore. Both are trying to get the most advantageous justice possible. If Hardiman is 97% and Kavanaugh is 100%, there's no reason for the GOP to compromise to confirm him with 54 votes instead of 51. Obama offered Garland as a compromise and the GOP bet the farm on the election in 2016, which they won. So now they get their pick. If they had lost, Hillary would get to pick and the Dem Senate confirm, anyone she wanted. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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