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Topic	i don't understand the Colin kaepernick 'controversy' at all.
Rasmoh 09/10/18 2:55:31 AM #84:	Chewster posted... What explanation do you have for that? Dude was drunk and waving a gun around, then made a motion that could easily be construed as reaching for a gun. I do think it could have been avoided, but I don't think it really counts as murder. More importantly though, I had to google this to even figure out what the fuck you were talking about. Am I so significant to you that you have to bring up opinions I had on issues 6+ months ago? Get off my nuts. PK_Spam posted... One black man kills another, unarmed, black man. The murderer gets life in prison. Good. A cop shoots an unarmed black man 7 times in the back. The cop has years of training and a history of spousal abuse. The cop gets paid leave and will be back in his job in a few months. I assume this one refers to Stephon Clark, the convicted felon who was arrested just a month prior while still on probation for robbery? First off, unarmed is meaningless because it's a hindsight fact. Police aren't given the luxury of knowing whether or not someone is actually unarmed. Doubly so when the suspect is running from them. Second, the entry points of the shots are still up for debate. Regardless, it doesn't matter if he was shot in the back because he still could have been pulling a gun on the police, whether or not his back was facing them. This happened because he ran from the police instead of cooperating with them, furthering their suspicion. Third, I can't find any information regarding either of the named officers having a history of spousal abuse. Where can I find this? I'd be willing to admit that someone with an actual history of violent spousal abuse should not be a police officer. A cop chokes and kills an unarmed black man who is guilty of selling loose cigarettes. Would be alive and kicking if he had just complied instead of fighting. A cop shoots and kills a child holding a toy guy. The cop claims the child looked like a grown man, and defends shooting that child multiple times with no pause. Waving a gun around. Officers have no way of knowing it's a toy from a distance. Why is this a surprise? A cop stops a black woman for speeding. He slams her into the ground, giving her a concussion, then takes her to jail, where she commits suicide This is about the worst one you've mentioned, though you putting the suicide comment in quotes as though to imply they lynched her in jail is pretty moronic. She shouldn't have been arrested, but she also would be alive if she wasn't looking to pick a fight with the police to begin with. Most of these "victims" would be alive if they acted like normal people instead of criminals or petulant children. It all loops back to responsibility. If these people would have acted in a responsible, polite manner, they would almost assuredly be alive today. Instead, they chose to needlessly escalate situations to the point where lethal force becomes an option to a group that is authorized to use it. PaddysPub posted... Dont you think that he grew up going through a lot of the shit he talks about it? Probably not, considering he was adopted by a wealthy white couple, was popular growing up, and is mixed-race enough to pass as white or black. In fact, it's almost ironic that someone who champions for the rights of blacks is a half-white man who can only pass as black by co-opting traditional black hairstyles. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you. <cite>Rasmoh posted [p:908451784] in i don'... [t:76985950]...</cite> <quote><cite>Chewster posted...</cite> <quote>What explanation do you have for that?</quote> Dude was drunk and waving a gun around, then made a motion that could easily be construed as reaching for a gun. I do think it could have been avoided, but I don't think it really counts as murder. More importantly though, I had to google this to even figure out what the fuck you were talking about. Am I so significant to you that you have to bring up opinions I had on issues 6+ months ago? Get off my nuts. <cite>PK_Spam posted...</cite> <quote>One black man kills another, unarmed, black man. The murderer gets life in prison.</quote> Good. <quote>A cop shoots an unarmed black man 7 times in the back. The cop has years of training and a history of spousal abuse. The cop gets paid leave and will be back in his job in a few months.</quote> I assume this one refers to Stephon Clark, the convicted felon who was arrested just a month prior while still on probation for robbery? First off, unarmed is meaningless because it's a hindsight fact. Police aren't given the luxury of knowing whether or not someone is actually unarmed. Doubly so when the suspect is running from them. Second, the entry points of the shots are still up for debate. Regardless, it doesn't matter if he was shot in the back because he still could have been pulling a gun on the police, whether or not his back was facing them. This happened because he ran from the police instead of cooperating with them, furthering their suspicion. Third, I can't find any information regarding either of the named officers having a history of spousal abuse. Where can I find this? I'd be willing to admit that someone with an actual history of violent spousal abuse should not be a police officer. <quote>A cop chokes and kills an unarmed black man who is guilty of selling loose cigarettes.</quote> Would be alive and kicking if he had just complied instead of fighting. <quote>A cop shoots and kills a child holding a toy guy. The cop claims the child looked like a grown man, and defends shooting that child multiple times with no pause.</quote> Waving a gun around. Officers have no way of knowing it's a toy from a distance. Why is this a surprise? <quote>A cop stops a black woman for speeding. He slams her into the ground, giving her a concussion, then takes her to jail, where she commits suicide</quote> This is about the worst one you've mentioned, though you putting the suicide comment in quotes as though to imply they lynched her in jail is pretty moronic. She shouldn't have been arrested, but she also would be alive if she wasn't looking to pick a fight with the police to begin with. Most of these "victims" would be alive if they acted like normal people instead of criminals or petulant children. It all loops back to responsibility. If these people would have acted in a responsible, polite manner, they would almost assuredly be alive today. Instead, they chose to needlessly escalate situations to the point where lethal force becomes an option to a group that is authorized to use it. <cite>PaddysPub posted...</cite> <quote>Dont you think that he grew up going through a lot of the shit he talks about it?</quote> Probably not, considering he was adopted by a wealthy white couple, was popular growing up, and is mixed-race enough to pass as white or black. In fact, it's almost ironic that someone who champions for the rights of blacks is a half-white man who can only pass as black by co-opting traditional black hairstyles. --- Miami Dolphins \| Portland Trailblazers \| San Francisco Giants I won't say a thing, because the one who knows best is you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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