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pinky0926 posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

pinky0926 posted...

kayoticdreamz posted...

lol....comparing a border to the bill of rights. get out of here with that nonsense

The nonsense here is making your mind up about an international scale issue because of an incident like this.

If I found you say, 10 stories about immigrants doing wonderful things for America, would your stance change to "let's open the borders laissez-faire", or in that case would you say it's ridiculous to use anecdotes like this?

Nope, they're illegal and broke the law. Being born doesn't give you right to just come to America.

Why should illegals get a free pass? And why should we have open borders and not verify and check and vet and control who we let in here?

Which is a completely different conversation to the one this topic is about, which is summarily "see an illegal murdered someone, that's all you need to know about illegals!"

Quite straightforward really. Don't use cases like this to justify your political stance.

which is exactly what you're doing. You're trying to say all illegals are not like that (no shit, we aren't clones of each other), but this crime and many like it could simply be avoided by having a damn border wall.

Since illegals are law breakers to begin with, the logic of, "build a wall, control immigration" makes perfect sense. Not only does it maintain law and order and civility, but it also prevents murders like this one.

This persons murder is not justifying my stance, it is verifying my stance. I had this stance long before Molly got killed because I am one of the ones that say this is the kind of stuff that happens when you have unchecked open borders.

So you stop using this as a "This is an exception" political stance as an excuse to say we don't need border security and that illegals should get amnesty.

I don't care if it's mother teresa, if she hopped the border illegally, then she needs to be deported, and if she won't go peacefully, thats what guns are for.