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Topic	Was "I am no man" in the LotR books? (spoilers)
scar the 1 08/06/18 1:41:24 PM #42:	Southernfatman posted... Oh certainly. I just never found it fair when people called LOTR and other Tolkien works sexist. In a sense, they are, but I don't think it's the author reflecting his own personal views through his work in this case. I could be wrong, but I don't get that vibe from reading the text. I think the story of Beren and Luthien and Eowyn's arc in LOTR show that Tolkien was against gender norms and stereotypes in some fashion at least wouldn't it? I compare it with the racism label in the fact that even in the text itself it shows the opposite in some way. Sam sees the body of dead enemy man in Two Towersnd reflects that perhaps he wasn't exactly a bad person full of pure evil. Even the good "white" race (as critics called them) fell under Sauron's sway at one point. I agree to an extent. Tolkien did break the norms of the time, but that doesn't necessarily absolve him. His work is still quite male dominated (which of course is not necessarily wrong mind you). I'm sure there's valid as well as bogus criticism. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:906369472] in Was "... [t:76874825]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>Oh certainly. I just never found it fair when people called LOTR and other Tolkien works sexist. In a sense, they are, but I don't think it's the author reflecting his own personal views through his work in this case. I could be wrong, but I don't get that vibe from reading the text. I think the story of Beren and Luthien and Eowyn's arc in LOTR show that Tolkien was against gender norms and stereotypes in some fashion at least wouldn't it? I compare it with the racism label in the fact that even in the text itself it shows the opposite in some way. Sam sees the body of dead enemy man in Two Towersnd reflects that perhaps he wasn't exactly a bad person full of pure evil. Even the good "white" race (as critics called them) fell under Sauron's sway at one point.</quote> I agree to an extent. Tolkien did break the norms of the time, but that doesn't necessarily absolve him. His work is still quite male dominated (which of course is not necessarily wrong mind you). I'm sure there's valid as well as bogus criticism. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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