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Tyranthraxus posted...

s0nicfan posted...

That's still a narrow-minded assessment. What if the issue wasn't "immigration", but "sovereignty"?

For example, northern UK fisherman are capped at how much they can fish by the EU because portions of UK waters have been sliced off by the EU and given to other countries so they can fish, too, without going past the global cap to prevent depopulation. How is that not a legitimate complaint? UK fisherman are having trouble making a living because their own native waters have been given to another country by a government they didn't elect and with no means to appeal.

These are valid concerns. However while I admittedly have not crunched numbers, I'm finding it difficult to anticipate Fishermen being able to make more money by cutting out their trade partners in exchange for more of the thing they're trying to sell.

Surely they don't sell everything they catch. Some of it perishes.

But now you're going back to GDP, when the idea was that there are things more important than GDP. The fact that citizens can't fish off their own waters with no means to appeal is a significant issue separate from GDP but broader than "immigration", and it's one of many cases where EU overreach has bothered people.

The percent of UK law that comes from the EU is between 13% and 60%, depending on your interpretation (see link below). Those are laws that impact UK citizens, but yet are not drafted or voted on by UK elected officials. UK citizens also have no means of appeal, at least in the form of electing new officials. The fundamental question of Brexit was "do we have a right to self-govern"? That's a serious question worth serious debate, and not just a bunch of dumb people being fooled.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36473105
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