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TopicMy hardcore Bernie supporting friend just posted this meme on Facebook...
TheMikh
07/25/18 11:07:15 AM
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Darkman124 posted...
TheMikh posted...
Darkman124 posted...
most american democratic socialists are pushing ideas that have been tested in europe and worked for decades

not in the american regulatory climate

never mind the fact that the reach of european governments are creating their own array of other social and economic problems

the best aspects of european systems often involve far less government, if any - unions negotiate wages so the government doesn't have to mandate them, while many of the healthcare systems - even if public - are far more streamlined to my understanding than the red-tape ridden "privatized" hellscape that we have


I honestly am not familiar enough with the differences in our regulatory environment and that of Europe's but the broader point is that creating a single payer system is a financially viable objective, and that's been at the center of the objective set of the group of folks who willingly take on the 'socialist' label in the US.

It may require changes to our regulatory environment to be viable. Sure.

Union argument is a good one--German unions don't receive government subsidies. It perhaps begs the question: why are unions thriving there and dying here?

it seems as though the unions here either command too much political power in some states to the point where reforms have stagnated local economies, or are completely castrated in others putting most power in the hands of businesses, so there's very little union-business equilibrium in any given place
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