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TopicAnti-Trump protesters in Scotland
_AdjI_
07/17/18 11:52:11 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
limiting the concept of racism only to race is extremely arbitrary

arbitrary...? limiting X-ism to X is the opposite of arbitrary...


Hence I prefaced it with "the concept of." The core idea of racism is discriminating against somebody on the basis of their racial identity. Racial identity is a whole lot more than skin deep, though, incorporating culture and ethnicity as well. Skin colour and other obvious physical features are a tiny, fairly meaningless component of that, and when the basis for what you're saying is meaningless, that means what you're saying is arbitrary.

wwinterj25 posted...
Unfortunately not and that's why the word has lost a lot of meaning.


How has that caused it to lose meaning? If you're discussing racial discrimination and somebody brings up an example where the discriminated party has the same skin colour, but is still subject to functionally identical discrimination for hailing from a different place, is it not being arbitrarily pedantic to say that doesn't belong in the discussion? That the treatment of Irish or Polish immigrants doesn't belong in the same discussion as the racism faced by Chinese immigrants during the same period?

Quite simply, why do you think it *shouldn't* be used as a blanket term for racial, cultural, and ethnic discrimination? What value do you see in having a term that applies exclusively to racial discrimination when there's no such term for those other, functionally-identical elements? If you're going to argue against the evolution of language, you have to argue why the language shouldn't evolve in a certain way, not just state that it's not the term's present denotation.

McSame_as_Bush posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
Scots are a race?


In the absence of a good term for "prejudicial discrimination on the basis of culture or ethnicity," and given that limiting the concept of racism only to race is extremely arbitrary, close enough.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/scotophobia


Huh. I stand by my point in a general sense, but I learned a new word today. Cool.
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