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Topic	Goddamn the cost for traffic violations has gotten completely out of control
LinkPizza 07/10/18 11:16:28 PM #89:	Revelation34 posted... Drunk drivers tend to speed. I've always heard the opposite. Like a lot of them sometimes go slow to avoid getting pulled over for speeding. And then being found out that they were drunk... adjl posted... Being pulled over on the side of a highway is always unsafe. You really don't have to look hard to find stories of cops or other people being killed by drivers that didn't give them a wide berth while they were pulled over. Hence laws exist to mitigate that danger. If anyone (cop or otherwise) is pulled over on the side of the road, slow down and give them some extra room. It's just a good idea. Yeah. I know it can be unsafe. But it's still case by case. I think it's unsafe when people are speeding by them and are too close. But I'm not sure how fast he was going. Or how close he actually was... adjl posted... There'd need to be some degree of nuance, including a community service option in lieu of a monetary fine. Defining a poverty line as is done with taxes would also cut down on the "barely scraping by" issue. The exact details, I don't have, because this isn't my job. All I can say for sure is that having a flat fine means there are many people for whom a ticket is absolutely devastating, and many more for whom the fines are going to be negligible. Ideally, fines should be a significant enough deterrent to change behaviour for everyone receiving it, but not enough to ruin any lives (at least not for occasional violators), and that means it has to scale based on the violator's means. I agree that having a flat rate isn't good for everybody since, like you said, it could ruin some people's lives, while it's pocket change for others. I was just saying it's always hard to know how much it takes to ruin a life. I do agree that something has to be done as a deterrent, though... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:904859123] in Goddamn th... [t:76792338]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Drunk drivers tend to speed.</quote> I've always heard the opposite. Like a lot of them sometimes go slow to avoid getting pulled over for speeding. And then being found out that they were drunk... <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Being pulled over on the side of a highway is always unsafe. You really don't have to look hard to find stories of cops or other people being killed by drivers that didn't give them a wide berth while they were pulled over. Hence laws exist to mitigate that danger. If anyone (cop or otherwise) is pulled over on the side of the road, slow down and give them some extra room. It's just a good idea.</quote> Yeah. I know it can be unsafe. But it's still case by case. I think it's unsafe when people are speeding by them and are too close. But I'm not sure how fast he was going. Or how close he actually was... <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>There'd need to be some degree of nuance, including a community service option in lieu of a monetary fine. Defining a poverty line as is done with taxes would also cut down on the "barely scraping by" issue. The exact details, I don't have, because this isn't my job. All I can say for sure is that having a flat fine means there are many people for whom a ticket is absolutely devastating, and many more for whom the fines are going to be negligible. Ideally, fines should be a significant enough deterrent to change behaviour for everyone receiving it, but not enough to ruin any lives (at least not for occasional violators), and that means it has to scale based on the violator's means.</quote> I agree that having a flat rate isn't good for everybody since, like you said, it could ruin some people's lives, while it's pocket change for others. I was just saying it's always hard to know how much it takes to ruin a life. I do agree that something has to be done as a deterrent, though... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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