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TopicExplain to me how TLJ undermines Star Wars SO much. *spoilers*
LethalAffinity
07/04/18 5:19:21 AM
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Nazanir posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
My personal biggest problem was how this is the first time we see Luke on screen again in like 30 years and they fuck up his character so much. He grows so much as a character from 4-6, but then in 8 they throw all of that out the window to give some edgy message about the jedi order. Like u fucking wut m8. Plus his death was the most random asspull thing ever and literally made me angry in the theater >_>

I guess my other problems were:
-The casino planet and the whole space chase were beyond stupid.
-Leia flying in space was so out of place and dumb
-Admiral Holdo just being an incompetent person all around
-There are ZERO scenes where 2 lightsabers clash. What the actual fuck.
-Rey feels like she only gets 10 minutes of training and she leaves and lifts a million boulders. Meanwhile Luke trained for half of Empire and couldn't even lift a X-wing. Plus the training was excellent character development for Luke, but felt really squandered for Rey.

Jokey, but serious things that bothered me:
-Rose's waaaaaaay hotter sister dying
-The cute A-wing pilot dying >_>
-Rose isn't really likable imo
-Literally 100's of armored stormtroopers died in the hanger during the hyperspace attack, yet unarmored Finn and Rose survive? lol ok
-Captain Phasma literally comes and goes so quickly, I almost missed it.
-*frees animals on the casino planet* "Now it was worth it." *Meanwhile all the child slaves are still trapped* lol
-The movie literally opens with a your momma joke. What the hell is that.

Honestly, the Rey parents thing doesn't bother me that much lol >_>

My biggest beef was with Luke.

He was always pretty much hope personified. Even his own father, who was about to kill him, he never stopped believing there was goos in him, not once did he consider the possibility that he couldn't save him. But when he confronted Kylo Ren, that Luke was nowhere to be found.

The lightspeed ramming turns the entire eatablished lore on its ass, there is no way no one knew this was a possibility for hundreds of years, it was a horrible asspull.

They tried to have all the charactera to have witty banter like The Avengers have, for me, it just doesn't work. Avengers are super heroes, so it kind of fits, but Star Wars always felt a little more serious. They tried to force funny into this movie.

The confrontation between Finn and Phasma was complete and utter ass. And I hate how characters aren't fleshed out anymore as they were in the original trilogy.

Snoke was a waste.

Speaking of Luke and Kylo Ren, their fight was bullshit.

Holdo was a horrible character, sorry. Her big secret, which turnout to be the bullshit lightspeed ramming. And the fact that Holdo was expecting everyone to blindly follow her orders without question was morally questionable to say the least.

The choreography of the back to back fight of Kylo and Rey was godawful.

How Rose prevented Finn from destroying the battering ram or whatever it was called, what the actualy FUCK, was that. (And Rose was a crappy character overall).

The ending makes no sense. Over half the resistance got wiped out (thanks Rose) and everyone is seen smiling, happy, patting eachother on the back. It is such a disconnect from what happened.

Mark Hamill even agreed that Luke was ruined and then Disney forced him to keep quiet about it.

The whole movie was a mess.


Nailed it.
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