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Topic	Explain to me how TLJ undermines Star Wars SO much. spoilers
Jeff AKA Snoopy 07/04/18 1:49:38 AM #15:	Everything Luke does makes total sense. 1 - Snoke was messing with the minds of BOTH Luke and Kylo throughout their time together. 2 - Luke has had a history of being easily mind tricked. So has his father. It is a weakness both of them share. It makes sense that he would not recognize it since he believed the Sith to be gone. He didn't account for someone who just used the Force differently than a Sith to influence him. 3 - Luke has a history of being "aggressive" in the heat of the moment. He nearly killed his own father in blind rage. His father literally lost himself to his own anger. Again, it is a family trait they have. 4 - Luke has only had 2 Jedi ever as his direct teachers. Both of them basically left the universe behind when they failed. It was penance for failure. Luke would of course do the same thing as both Obi-Wan and Yoda did before him. You could argue he should have learned from that, but he was too full of grief, anger, and bitterness to see that. 5 - He was never afraid of Rey, rather that his influence on her could lead to disaster. I think he saw in her something better than what the Jedi Order ever was, and while he phrased it as a fear of her power, I think he was more afraid that his influence on her would lead her down a path he wants gone forever. He wants something better than a Jedi for her. All he knows is how to be a "Jedi" and a failure, at that point in the film. 6 - Everything he does to end the film is fucking fantastic. He realizes that despite him making fun of the whole legend of "Luke Skywalker", that legend of even more important than the man himself. Had he gone to fight himself, he would have died and been a rallying point for the First Order. Instead, what did he do? He fought off The First Order, saved The Resistance, made Kylo Ren look like a fool, and then disappeared without a scratch. Thus why the film ends with kids talking about The Resistance and the legend of Luke Skywalker, instead of the First Order and the death of Luke Skywalker. --- https://imgur.com/3PWjCdY https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r <cite>Jeff AKA Snoopy posted [p:904461776] in Explain to... [t:76773224]...</cite> <quote>Everything Luke does makes total sense. 1 - Snoke was messing with the minds of BOTH Luke and Kylo throughout their time together. 2 - Luke has had a history of being easily mind tricked. So has his father. It is a weakness both of them share. It makes sense that he would not recognize it since he believed the Sith to be gone. He didn't account for someone who just used the Force differently than a Sith to influence him. 3 - Luke has a history of being "aggressive" in the heat of the moment. He nearly killed his own father in blind rage. His father literally lost himself to his own anger. Again, it is a family trait they have. 4 - Luke has only had 2 Jedi ever as his direct teachers. Both of them basically left the universe behind when they failed. It was penance for failure. Luke would of course do the same thing as both Obi-Wan and Yoda did before him. You could argue he should have learned from that, but he was too full of grief, anger, and bitterness to see that. 5 - He was never afraid of Rey, rather that his influence on her could lead to disaster. I think he saw in her something better than what the Jedi Order ever was, and while he phrased it as a fear of her power, I think he was more afraid that his influence on her would lead her down a path he wants gone forever. He wants something better than a Jedi for her. All he knows is how to be a "Jedi" and a failure, at that point in the film. 6 - Everything he does to end the film is fucking fantastic. He realizes that despite him making fun of the whole legend of "Luke Skywalker", that legend of even more important than the man himself. Had he gone to fight himself, he would have died and been a rallying point for the First Order. Instead, what did he do? He fought off The First Order, saved The Resistance, made Kylo Ren look like a fool, and then disappeared without a scratch. Thus why the film ends with kids talking about The Resistance and the legend of Luke Skywalker, instead of the First Order and the death of Luke Skywalker. --- https://imgur.com/3PWjCdY https://imgur.com/GWG5c3r</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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