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TopicI didn't know America had children concentration camps
Unbridled9
06/29/18 12:05:36 AM
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This is not what I said.


Yes; it is. Exactly what you said. That places like Canada and Japan are places with low crime, low corruption, and high wealth while large swaths of Central America are not. They are places with high crime, high corruption, and low wealth. This is a heavy implication that this is why you'd be okay with a Mexican walking into America but would have issues with a Canadian or Japanese person. Or would you be a-okay with them entering too illegally?

This has nothing to do with anything I said.


Yes. It does. It has EVERYTHING to do with it. If someone from Mexico can walk up to the border and walk on by without being a U.S. citizen, not even having basic traveling papers (like passports), and will get greeted and defended by democrats who believe deporting them is wrong, we may as well not have a border since we're not defending it with even the most basic means.

Or do you think the government should turn them away? If so, what's the difference between fighting tooth and nail to keep someone who snuck across the border into America as some poor refugee who will be killed by crime lords and someone just up and walking across the border? Is it because the former had to sneak in? Do you only care about deporting them once they're actually here?

According to a study -

I'm not going to bother with the study, because that's not the point. We're having a bunch of people cross the border and come into our land because they want to live a life of comparative wealth and ease. Not because they have people who will hunt them down back home or because American soil somehow cures some rare disease that they and only they have.

Why is it so hard for you to comprehend that people may legitimately believe that these people are being given a shit deal?

I believe it. I just don't care. They want a better deal; go back to Mexico then immigrate legally.

That they don't deserve to have their kids ripped away from them because that's a tremendously shitty thing to do? Why do you automatically assume it's about image and self-centredness, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary?

Are you that much of a sociopath that basic human compassion is a completely alien concept to you?


My parents, when they were younger, went down to Mexico for several months to help out the poor. My dad even proposed to her soon after returning. They went around the world to multiple locations and did their best to help out the poor, the needy, and the ill. I live in a neighborhood that is so heavily hispanic that almost two thirds the local businesses that aren't big corps like Subway use Spanish as their default language. Our local community shelters, which I give quite a bit to, are full of hispanic people. My job has far more immigrants than Native-born Americans (I don't mean 'white people' either. The vast majority moved from places like India or Russia. Ironically our hispanic workers are the only ethnic group with NO immigrants).

And here's how I know this is about image and self-centeredness. Because people who actually care about this situation DO things about these situations. At work I'm regularly standing up for my co-workers and helping them when some racist ass gets uppity. If you actually cared about helping the poor down in Mexico you'd be doing your best to either help Mexico improve or help people immigrate legally or find some other avenue that doesn't involve breaking laws and borders.
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