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darkknight109 posted...

Because Canada, Germany, Japan, and other parts of the US, are first world nations with low crime, low corruption, and excellent economic prospects, three descriptors that don't apply to huge swathes of Central America.

So what? Because their country is a shithole it's suddenly A-okay to cross the border and everyone should be welcoming and all that stuff? Bullshit. If Mexico suddenly became prosperous you know damned well that this exact same debate would still be happening with a bunch of bleeding heart emotionalizers claiming we should take every illegal immigrant. Just because America is wealthy doesn't mean I should suddenly feel bad about kicking someone out who snuck in through the back door. They want in? They can legally immigrate like they're supposed to.

And ditch the buzzwords about how the US "is not allowed" to protect its border. No one is suggesting that violent felons or gang members be allowed to stream unimpeded across the border and implying otherwise is completely counterproductive to the discussion, because anyone who doesn't already agree with you is going to immediately ignore anything else you have to say because you're peddling in gross exaggerations and falsehoods (it's the same as people on the left calling Trump a fascist dictator - whatever point you're trying to make is lost at that point, because you've displayed a willingness to exaggerate facts to the point where they are no longer grounded in reality).

It ain't a buzzword. If some non-violent, non felonious, non-gangmember person walked right up to the border, not even trying to hide it, walked right up to the check point and proceeded to pat the guards on the back before walking right on in, would you approve? Would you claim that they should just be allowed to enter in? Come to their defense when people get upset and insist that they get returned?

Yes, the US has a right to protect its southern border. It also has a moral and legal responsibility to offer safe harbour to legitimate refugees, and to treat those who do not meet that description ethically and humanely. Tearing kids from their parents' arms and leaving them separated for months, with no concrete process to reunite them, is neither ethical nor humane.

No we don't. And, even if we DID, we have the ability to offer that harboring WITHOUT just allowing anyone to cross over unimpeded to live their life basically un-monitored and without someone screeching the moment we try to deport ACTUAL CRIMINALS who DO get caught! And that's ignoring the biggest thing.

These people aren't ****ing refugees! There are precisely 0 actual wars going on with Mexico ATM beyond the conflict with their own drug runners. These are people who tried to come to America to live a life of wealth and prosperity without having to do things like 'pay taxes' and 'become actual citizens'. When ACTUAL criminals get caught they get bleeding hearts rushing to defend them. When they get involved in violent affairs, things that would get people thrown in jail or worse, they might get caught and thrown in jail or *gasp* deported!

Face it. When it comes to 'why' the reason is 'because I feel guilty and want to look good'. Your job and livelihood isn't in jeopardy, you don't live anywhere near these people, you wouldn't even consider going to do charity work or anything to try and help these other nations or these people, all you want to do is sound like you're a damned champion of the people without doing jack shit and blame it on someone else when problems arise.
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