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Topic	Should the state mandate birth control for people receiving public support?
legendary_zell 06/25/18 9:30:46 AM #73:	lucidsun22 posted... legendary_zell posted... If y'all had your way, human rights wouldn't really exist because you fundamentally don't respect them, especially for people who do things you don't like How do you expect to be taken seriously when you make giant, ridiculous leaps like that? That's just like the equally ridiculous leaps that alt-right nut jobs make when discussing immigration. RedWhiteBlue posted... My biggest concern with this is wealth gap, and how people being left behind in wealth are unable to afford children. Basically it promotes rich people having kids and wealth inheritance maintaining dynasties. Having children in welfare doesn't make the situation better in any way for the adult or the child. And believe it or not, most people do manage to get off welfare. Once people become financially stable, they get off welfare and continue with their normal (reproductive) lives. And this isn't redlining. What inheritance are babies born in welfare missing out on? People in this topic have supported stripping others of one of the most fundamental human rights (reproductive freedom and the right to have children), with no other information than that they are poor enough to need welfare. That's pretty clear evidence of a lack of respect for human rights. And it's not just this topic, any topic where there's a discussion of a human rights issue, half of CE is giddy at the thought of abridging or abolishing that right or denying it to some disfavored group. There's no leaping required. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:903922891] in Should the... [t:76746537]...</cite> <quote><cite>lucidsun22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendary_zell posted...</cite> <quote>If y'all had your way, human rights wouldn't really exist because you fundamentally don't respect them, especially for people who do things you don't like</quote> How do you expect to be taken seriously when you make giant, ridiculous leaps like that? That's just like the equally ridiculous leaps that alt-right nut jobs make when discussing immigration. <cite>RedWhiteBlue posted...</cite> <quote>My biggest concern with this is wealth gap, and how people being left behind in wealth are unable to afford children. Basically it promotes rich people having kids and wealth inheritance maintaining dynasties.</quote> Having children in welfare doesn't make the situation better in any way for the adult or the child. And believe it or not, most people do manage to get off welfare. Once people become financially stable, they get off welfare and continue with their normal (reproductive) lives. And this isn't redlining. What inheritance are babies born in welfare missing out on?</quote> People in this topic have supported stripping others of one of the most fundamental human rights (reproductive freedom and the right to have children), with no other information than that they are poor enough to need welfare. That's pretty clear evidence of a lack of respect for human rights. And it's not just this topic, any topic where there's a discussion of a human rights issue, half of CE is giddy at the thought of abridging or abolishing that right or denying it to some disfavored group. There's no leaping required. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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