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Topic	What would the world be like today if the Central powers had won WWI
KILBOTz 06/23/18 3:34:33 PM #20:	ElatedVenusaur posted... The Germans would absolutely have imposed a harsh peace on the French(the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk they imposed on Lenin and the Russians is informative). Austria-Hungary would probably survive long-term, but the Ottoman Empire probably wouldn't have been able to cope well with the rise of Arabic nationalism or the Saudis. The criticism I have of Kaiserreich is that it's utterly fantastical to suppose the Germans would plunge themselves into basically every war they could find after a grinding, six-year struggle(yes, the Weltkrieg is LONGER in Kaiserreich). OTL Germany was on the verge of socio-economic collapse in 1918, which is why they launched a massive offensive in spring of that year: they needed to win, and soon. The French weren't any better off. The Imperial German regime wouldn't survive propping up White Russia, an extensive campaign in China in addition to occupying all the restive new territory they acquired. Kaiserreich is fun, but definitely implausible in many ways. Part of Kaiserreich lore is that Germany stopped unrestricted submarine warfare after sinking the Lusitania. Later UK began submarine warfare, sunk a ship with American citizens and Christmas gifts on it so in order to not bring the US into the war it ceased the blockade allowing critical material to Germany. I do think the German Empire would have still been quite the warring country. Reminds me of the quote "Prussia was not a country with an army, but an army with a country". I think wars was part of their national identity and as national identity was rising in the early 20th century I could very well see them acting as world police. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:903827748] in What would... [t:76741855]...</cite> <quote><cite>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite> <quote>The Germans would absolutely have imposed a harsh peace on the French(the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk they imposed on Lenin and the Russians is informative). Austria-Hungary would probably survive long-term, but the Ottoman Empire probably wouldn't have been able to cope well with the rise of Arabic nationalism or the Saudis. The criticism I have of Kaiserreich is that it's utterly fantastical to suppose the Germans would plunge themselves into basically every war they could find after a grinding, six-year struggle(yes, the Weltkrieg is LONGER in Kaiserreich). OTL Germany was on the verge of socio-economic collapse in 1918, which is why they launched a massive offensive in spring of that year: they needed to win, and soon. The French weren't any better off. The Imperial German regime wouldn't survive propping up White Russia, an extensive campaign in China in addition to occupying all the restive new territory they acquired. Kaiserreich is fun, but definitely implausible in many ways.</quote> Part of Kaiserreich lore is that Germany stopped unrestricted submarine warfare after sinking the Lusitania. Later UK began submarine warfare, sunk a ship with American citizens and Christmas gifts on it so in order to not bring the US into the war it ceased the blockade allowing critical material to Germany. I do think the German Empire would have still been quite the warring country. Reminds me of the quote "Prussia was not a country with an army, but an army with a country". I think wars was part of their national identity and as national identity was rising in the early 20th century I could very well see them acting as world police. --- https://imgur.com/O3syCWD https://imgur.com/k3YiBdG</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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